The Japan of about 1950-present is so different from Imperial era Japan that...

Sep 14, 2014
7:56:32pm

shoganai

...it may as well be two different countries from entirely different planets.

Quite literally, they don't even speak the same language.

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Had my first feelings of racism recently

Bravescoug

9/14/14 7:52pm

I am really surprised that Hollywood is making this into a film

jrifkin48

9/14/14 7:54pm

Not really different from making a Schindler's List

runnincoug

9/14/14 8:19pm

The Japan of about 1950-present is so different from Imperial era Japan that...

shoganai

9/14/14 7:56pm

I'm not so sure about that.

Supercoug

9/14/14 8:32pm

Have you been to Japan?

shoganai

9/14/14 9:05pm

What do you mean by "never see WWII the same again"?

Y'zFan

9/14/14 9:10pm

Context.

shoganai

9/14/14 9:26pm

You should try visiting some of the countries they decimated.

Supercoug

9/15/14 4:12am

or just wikipedia the rape of nanking.

erkimust

9/15/14 11:01am

I had never heard about that. Wow, that is awful, awful stuff

runnincoug

9/15/14 2:05pm

I've been to that museum. One of the worst experiences ever. Tragic.

Supercoug

9/15/14 2:08pm

Careful, though. Remember, it's in China, and designed by the Chinese Communist

Japan Coug

9/15/14 8:19pm

No doubt. There's no substitute for first-hand exposure.

shoganai

9/15/14 6:05pm

I think you're simplifying things too much

macaroni

9/15/14 1:58pm

How so?

shoganai

9/15/14 6:04pm

Because you're only taking into account certain cultural things. And even then

macaroni

9/15/14 8:41pm

Who excused their actions?

shoganai

9/15/14 8:46pm

You did because now you "understand". Like you really don't understand.

macaroni

9/16/14 8:12am

Understanding what caused it doesn't excuse it.

shoganai

9/16/14 6:09pm

I'm interested to know what your point was.

Supercoug

9/16/14 8:21pm

Two separate points, in response to two separate posts.

shoganai

9/17/14 8:52am

What do those two points have to do with the OP? And for #2, in what ways is it

Supercoug

9/17/14 6:54pm

RE: What do those two points have to do with the OP? And for #2, in what ways is

shoganai

9/17/14 7:12pm

I'm not sure why anyone challenges you.

Supercoug

9/17/14 7:23pm

I'm guessing you're incapable of saying, "sorry. I misspoke." Got it...

macaroni

9/17/14 8:56pm

Then help us understand. Because what we all read is that now you

macaroni

9/16/14 9:16pm

I don't really understand what you're challenging me on here.

shoganai

9/17/14 8:56am

Seems like a lot of people made that inference. Perhaps you should consider

Supercoug

9/17/14 7:25pm

Which part confused you?

shoganai

9/17/14 7:30pm

Simply explain your response to my 1st response. Specifically, how

Supercoug

9/17/14 7:45pm

I don't think it would do either of those things. Nor did I ever say it would.

shoganai

9/17/14 8:02pm

If that's what you think you wrote, maybe you're just a terrible writer

macaroni

9/17/14 9:03pm

Well, that's what the words I wrote actually say, so...

shoganai

9/17/14 9:09pm

So everyone is wrong and you're right. Got it

macaroni

9/18/14 6:55am

Ok, that's just a lie. Be a man here.

macaroni

9/17/14 8:59pm

I'm guessing you're incapable of saying, "sorry. I misspoke." Got it...

macaroni

9/17/14 8:57pm

Nope. You're wrong and you're the one who won't admit it.

shoganai

9/17/14 9:01pm

RE: Had my first feelings of racism recently

gwalker

9/14/14 7:56pm

RE: Had my first feelings of racism recently

Bravescoug

9/14/14 8:00pm

well then you shouldn't watch 12 Years a Slave.

tisdaplace

9/14/14 7:57pm

That's an interesting phenomenon

korihor

9/14/14 8:11pm

I keep forgetting that there are now 2-3 generations in the U.S. that

boogers

9/14/14 8:19pm

That wasn't my first book on POWs in Japan, but the first time I felt similarly

runnincoug

9/14/14 8:17pm

Well compared what they did to thousands of Koreans, Chinese and Philippinos

kotacoug

9/14/14 8:28pm

Nothing could make the Nazis cringe.

gwalker

9/14/14 8:45pm

At some point, things are so evil, it's hard to understand things being worse

runnincoug

9/14/14 9:04pm

Forgiving on their part as well, considering that we blew

IndependentGeorge

9/14/14 8:29pm

Well we probably saved them 10s of thousands of lives in doing so

kotacoug

9/14/14 8:32pm

I get that I'm American and biased, but hard to see how we can be faulted when

runnincoug

9/14/14 9:06pm

A friend of my dad's is japanese and his wife is Chinese. The Parents of the

WDaddy

9/14/14 8:25pm

The Chinese are opening up to inter-racial/ethnic marriages, but still

Supercoug

9/14/14 8:34pm

My mom was born and raised in Hong Kong. That sentiment is spot on.

ldssdl

9/14/14 8:49pm

Taiwanese don't hate the Japanese as much.

ChinoCoug

9/14/14 10:08pm

In fact, they don't hate them at all. The Taiwanese I know all love the Japanese

Japan Coug

9/15/14 8:45pm

And the Japanese treat Taiwanese like a kid brother they made in Japan's image.

ChinoCoug

9/16/14 6:47am

Try reading Flyboys. Madness. Outrageous treatment of American flyers.

toadie

9/14/14 8:59pm

Separate the race from the actions.

Blue Print

9/14/14 9:03pm

Excellent point. Blaming "the Japanese" as a race/people today for the actions

Japan Coug

9/16/14 12:51pm

I'm not so sure it was "relatively few", but my point still holds.

Blue Print

9/16/14 1:11pm

It wasn't few at all, it was widespread in Japanese culture, but what I think

runnincoug

9/16/14 3:08pm

What percentage of the Japanese population do you think was wreaking havoc in

Japan Coug

9/16/14 5:34pm

Sorry this is long

Skiking20

9/14/14 10:07pm

RE: Sorry this is long

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