How can you judge the Top 25 teams yet if they haven't played anyone important?

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Sep 18, 2014
12:59:30pm

Football Realist

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Football Realist

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Byu #72 in remaining SOS according to ESPN FPI

Football Realist

9/18/14 12:54pm

Considering that most schools have almost only conference games left, is this

midwestcoug

9/18/14 12:56pm

True, but conference is what matters most. Does that mean rankings are bogus

Football Realist

9/18/14 12:57pm

LOL, really? Pretty obvious yewt here, guys

BYUCougarsFan

9/18/14 2:53pm

#B1Gproblems

BYUheaven

9/18/14 12:57pm

Happens every year.

Scooter

9/18/14 12:57pm

Perhaps because the Top 25 is the top 25 teams, not the top 25 schedules.

YoManCoug

9/18/14 12:58pm

How can you judge the Top 25 teams yet if they haven't played anyone important?

Football Realist

9/18/14 12:59pm

We give in BYU is horrible you are right.

midwestcoug

9/18/14 1:01pm

Houston is certainly tougher than "Bye."

YoManCoug

9/18/14 1:04pm

So if the 49ers played BYU's schedule they wouldn't qualify for the CFB Playoff?

CaliWG

9/18/14 1:10pm

That's a very strange comparison, it also doesn't apply either because byu does

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:14pm

What does playing in a conference have to do with anything?

CaliWG

9/18/14 1:20pm

You brought up the NFC comparison did you not?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:24pm

I brought up the fact that many years the Niners' schedule was not very tough

CaliWG

9/18/14 1:30pm

Mhmm. And I addressed that in the post right after

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:35pm

Your response makes no sense

CaliWG

9/18/14 1:40pm

Sorry I don't speak "delusion." Just "realist." Enjoy your day buddy!!!

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:05pm

I'm with you, I think national champion should be decided by toughest schedule.

4mack

9/18/14 1:00pm

Just curious is all. Rankings shouldn't come out until at least Week 8 imo.

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:05pm

Because we are not #72 in the past 3 games. I'd guess we have a top

rggee

9/18/14 1:02pm

Possibly top 10.

rggee

9/18/14 1:04pm

Not actually. Week 3 Byu #72, Week 2 #75, and Week 1 #70. Preseason #67

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:04pm

Those are usually full year projections even early in the year

dtownCoug

9/18/14 1:29pm

You're an idiot you don't even understand the stats you are

coug almighty

9/18/14 1:53pm

Calling people "idiots," it's against the rules here I thought God bless you

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:06pm

I only called you an idiot.... [waits for rebuttal]

coug almighty

9/18/14 2:11pm

I don't think that's one of the seven words you are allowed to say on here

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:13pm

So now your back in the singular form... Must be one of those days...

coug almighty

9/18/14 2:17pm

Not if its true. Plus you didn't defend what he accused you of.

6th-Kamikaze-mission

9/18/14 2:47pm

Because the top 25 at this point is just a big guessing game

rcbyufan

9/18/14 1:02pm

Don't feed this troll, please.

cougarick

9/18/14 1:04pm

Trolls don't posts facts

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:05pm

But the only fact you posted has no relevance

docrick

9/18/14 1:12pm

You mean like how Utah went bowling in 2012?

cougarick

9/18/14 1:15pm

Yes, the 2011-2012 season. Sun Bowl against GT

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:32pm

The Sun Bowl was in 2011. Try again.

cougarick

9/18/14 1:41pm

Sorry you're struggling with this. Count on your fingers next time?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:48pm

Yep, time to bug out. The troll is dragging me down to his level.

cougarick

9/18/14 1:54pm

I'd bug out to if I couldn't figure out something so simple

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:05pm

Sure, like that your team didn't go bowling in 2012. Seems fairly simple.

cougarick

9/18/14 2:11pm

The same year 2011-2012 season where Utah won 54-10 @ Byu. I'd try to forget

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:18pm

You post half-truths and then twisted arguments, you're killing me here LOL

BYUCougarsFan

9/18/14 2:55pm

Utah will have a much better SOS than BYU. But BYU will still be ranked higher.

boscatar

9/18/14 1:06pm

One loss and Byu won't be ranked at all, for the rest of the season Miami!

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:09pm

Not sure, but it somehow worked for Utah in 2004 and 2008.

mulletino

9/18/14 1:06pm

In 2008 Utah beat four ranked teams, did they not? Finished 2nd in the country

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:09pm

Your SOS was in the mid 50's. GARBAGE schedule, right?

mulletino

9/18/14 1:09pm

Notice how all the MWC teams were pretty similar

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:21pm

They are considered a top 25 team because they are winning

docrick

9/18/14 1:10pm

Except they didn't win the Houston game until two minutes remaining in the game

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:11pm

Ahh you must not have watched the game

docrick

9/18/14 1:13pm

Ahh, watched every play. Streamed it online even

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:15pm

Then you aren't very realistic about football....got it

docrick

9/18/14 1:16pm

No need to get defensive and insecure, friend

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:18pm

not defensive just posting facts

docrick

9/18/14 1:20pm

I see none

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:23pm

That's because you really aren't a realist

docrick

9/18/14 1:25pm

Then you wouldn't be so offended if that were true

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:29pm

Oh I'm not offended at all; I'm giving you a dose of reality

docrick

9/18/14 1:35pm

Sorry it's having no effect. It happens.

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:39pm

Is your period a hotkey for a smiley face?

tony

9/18/14 1:49pm

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:50pm

we went up 23-0 but we didn't win it until 2:00 to go? that's funny "my friend"

run26

9/18/14 1:21pm

Even more embarrassing right?

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:01pm

LOL. It took UCLA until the last minute to beat Texas on a neutral

mulletino

9/18/14 1:13pm

With a backup QB that played the whole game and still pulled it off, shows that

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:16pm

And what about UVA and Memphis? Or does that hurt your position?

mulletino

9/18/14 1:18pm

Well I think Virginia is actually a pretty good team. I think you'll see that

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:40pm

We'll see you Monday with your endless praise for BYU then.

mulletino

9/18/14 1:44pm

Praise for what?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:47pm

for beating a "pretty good team"

run26

9/18/14 1:48pm

When did this happen?

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:00pm

sept 20, 2014

run26

9/18/14 2:01pm

You should let ESPN know so they can update the score and call it final since

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:17pm

hahaha, you should have stuck with your "facts"

4mack

9/18/14 1:14pm

wrong, they won the game with 51 seconds left in the 3rd quarter

byujag

9/18/14 1:15pm

Okay, but Houston had the opportunity to win up until the 2 minute mark or so

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:17pm

Blah blah blah, and BYU had the opportunity for a blowout if not for fluky TO's.

mulletino

9/18/14 1:19pm

If Houston had a running game it would have ended much differently I think

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:22pm

lol....if if if if

docrick

9/18/14 1:29pm

For a "realist", you sure have made a lot of conclusions based on "ifs"

jdub

9/18/14 1:34pm

Don't you think that is a problem if we cannot stop one dimensional play?!

digitalayon

9/18/14 1:54pm

they had the opportunity to tie it and we had the same opportunity to win by 16

byujag

9/18/14 1:21pm

Actually, after 4 minutes of play in the first qtr, Houston was NEVER in a

frontrowcougar

9/18/14 2:03pm

what's going on here? is this guy clueless?

johnnycarson

9/18/14 1:25pm

No just a little ute troll getting his daily dose of fun before going back to

docrick

9/18/14 1:27pm

Would you like some assistance? Perhaps we could draw a picture for you?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:28pm

Back away from the crayons

docrick

9/18/14 1:29pm

Then how will I get my degree from byu?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:33pm

Ah, friend, don't go there

docrick

9/18/14 1:38pm

Oh so thats why the pizza delivery guy tapes his byu diploma to the windshield

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:45pm

weak...hey there is something BYU and UofU students have in common though.....

docrick

9/18/14 1:51pm

If the pizza guy wanted a real career and applied for grad school at the U

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:53pm

dude you are getting worse look.....

docrick

9/18/14 1:56pm

I'm great actually Hope you have a great day too!

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:59pm

Other Top 15 teams first three games had SOS of >80

BlackBart

9/18/14 1:23pm

One of the biggest logical fallacies inherent in these kinds of arguments

gwalker

9/18/14 1:46pm

No, I didn't say Byu was #72 in current SOS, the ESPN FPI did

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:52pm

Yes. You did. When you quote something, you're still saying it. If you

gwalker

9/18/14 1:55pm

Can't disagree with the truth.

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:58pm

But you can mislead with it.

gwalker

9/18/14 2:35pm

Answer me this

juranmb

9/18/14 1:54pm

Are you going to offer me candy to get into your van too?

Football Realist

9/18/14 1:58pm

Utah football 2004 and 2008 are now going to return their trophies.

lawboy

9/18/14 2:01pm

Remind me how many ranked teams Byu plays this year? Still 0? Ok!

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:11pm

Remind me why that matters when measuring overall SOS? OK, thanks.

lawboy

9/18/14 2:15pm

Then I guess Savannah St's schedule is as worthy as Byu's with that logic

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:19pm

Ask Florida St.

cubbiecougar

9/18/14 2:06pm

LOL. Almost EXACTLY the 2004 Utes SOS according to Sagarin:

CosmosCuzzn

9/18/14 2:08pm

LOL, let's see you compare that AFTER the season when it makes sense to

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:12pm

Answer the question troll.. err.. "Realist". Your 2004 Utes (cant hide it) had

CosmosCuzzn

9/18/14 2:18pm

How many BCS bowls did Byu go to again? Still 0? OK!

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:20pm

How many NC, Heisman, Doak Walker, Davey Obrien, etc trophies do the Utes have?

CosmosCuzzn

9/18/14 2:22pm

You didn't answer the question, and now you changed the argument

jdub

9/18/14 2:25pm

When I look back on a season, all I remember is SOS. Nobody even thinks about

Broda

9/18/14 2:20pm

You are one insecure pac-12 fan.

Broda

9/18/14 2:19pm

I think you should learn your teams and how to count more accurately.

Football Realist

9/18/14 2:21pm

you're right. he meant PAC-10. UU and CU don't seem to count so far

run26

9/18/14 2:23pm

Yep, ONE team in the top 10 rankings (Oregon). Who is the other?

Broda

9/18/14 2:23pm

He is right, there are 6 in the top 10 remaining SOS list. But, that's stupid

jdub

9/18/14 2:31pm

Are you guys going to start hanging SOS banners in front of RES now?

CosmosCuzzn

9/18/14 2:27pm

only if they pull off the #2 SOS in the country -- and then followed by a parade

run26

9/18/14 2:35pm

It seems to me that a fan of another team in Utah doesn't feel like his team is

6th-Kamikaze-mission

9/18/14 2:56pm

Your argument is funny

asalt2

9/18/14 3:16pm

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