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Oct 19, 2014
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jhingman
I said clearly in my post that the coaches are to blame for recruiting
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The reason for BYU's failure is very simple: The players aren't very good
jhingman
10/19/14 11:06pm
this is true but I still believe there are more problems than just talent alone
PortlandCoug
10/19/14 11:07pm
Well said.
Alcova
10/19/14 11:07pm
This argument is also baloney.
pittsburghcoug
10/19/14 11:09pm
Thanks, somebody had to do it
traveller 1860
10/19/14 11:12pm
Our players aren't good?
RunningQB
10/19/14 11:13pm
Agreed, but that's more the recruiting side of things
jhingman
10/19/14 11:22pm
The Nevada and Utah State defensive lines are better than BYU's. Yes.
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:15pm
Then that's also a coaching problem, b/c that should never be the case.
P-townCoug
10/19/14 11:16pm
Rowley - 4 star recruit. Bronson should be on the line.
pittsburghcoug
10/19/14 11:17pm
Rowley was recruited to play O line and it shows.
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:17pm
he was recruited and listed at both. DL for BYU.
southernfriedcougar
10/19/14 11:27pm
Bronson seems injured or something, because he's even slower than Rowley
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:18pm
Maybe so, but it's not due to lack of talent. That's the hole in your analysis.
Real Men Wear Blue
10/20/14 9:17am
Exactly. Not only that, but if our players were no better or worse than
P-townCoug
10/19/14 11:15pm
I said clearly in my post that the coaches are to blame for recruiting
jhingman
10/19/14 11:25pm
You're right, you did. My bad.
P-townCoug
10/19/14 11:30pm
How do you explain Ziggy?
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:16pm
Ziggy is a freak of nature, and he only made it on the field
pittsburghcoug
10/19/14 11:20pm
If you're questioning Bronco's personnel decision, I agree with you.
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:22pm
This tells us all we need to know about the BYU football culture
LV Mike
10/19/14 11:23pm
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while...
Taullis
10/19/14 11:21pm
lol everything he needed to know?
southernfriedcougar
10/19/14 11:32pm
Your constant Ziggy reference shows you haven't been around sports much.
MtnMan
10/19/14 11:54pm
Is doesn't matter how talented you are.
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/20/14 12:01am
Ziggy was and is a freak. You still don't get it. Athletes like Ziggy are rare
MtnMan
10/20/14 12:16am
Bronco didn't recruit Ziggy.
So it goes...
10/19/14 11:57pm
That's the worst example you could use to support your argument.
Real Men Wear Blue
10/20/14 9:19am
How do you explain how a team has Ziggy and KVN but still puts up mediocre
mr_thekid
10/21/14 6:41pm
You think stars and recruiting rankings really matter in this case?
jhingman
10/19/14 11:21pm
Bronco's defense was #3 because he had two stellar players.
pittsburghcoug
10/19/14 11:25pm
You're making my point for me, but you may not know it
jhingman
10/19/14 11:33pm
Not true.
pittsburghcoug
10/19/14 11:41pm
I see your argument, but I don't think there's enough evidence to support it
jhingman
10/19/14 11:58pm
Yeah I mean they have had 2 players drafted in the last 4 drafts. Nobody
concolor couguar
10/20/14 7:15am
I call baloney. Who were the 5 4 star defensive players.
Alcova
10/19/14 11:33pm
He's probably including guys like Langi and Harvey Jackson.
Josef K
10/19/14 11:42pm
RE: He's probably including guys like Langi and Harvey Jackson.
southernfriedcougar
10/19/14 11:48pm
We are small and slow in the secondary.
Josef K
10/19/14 11:55pm
RE: We are small and slow in the secondary.
southernfriedcougar
10/20/14 12:17am
RE: I call baloney. Who were the 5 4 star defensive players.
southernfriedcougar
10/19/14 11:42pm
Actually six, but who's counting. Could be eight if Bills and Fu'a were healthy
pittsburghcoug
10/19/14 11:47pm
Yep! This is the problem. Our coaches stink at coaching up/developing players.
kansascougar
10/20/14 7:30am
The only problem with this argument is that our "not very good" players got us
westsidecoug
10/19/14 11:12pm
I was focusing primarily on the defensive talent in this post
jhingman
10/19/14 11:35pm
I think we have an FCS d line.
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:13pm
LOL opposing teams have a 2.85 YPC rushing average. I'd hate to see D1
Blugar
10/19/14 11:29pm
But no pass rush
Cosmo Kramer
10/19/14 11:31pm
That's understandable considering how poor the teams we have played are at
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:31pm
Look, if you just play good run defense the entire time without EVER worrying
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:32pm
I seem to recall a lot of our pass rushers and cover guys going down.
Blugar
10/19/14 11:34pm
Coaches can make calls that don't expose player weaknesses
2FarGone
10/19/14 11:14pm
Spot on
kotacoug
10/19/14 11:25pm
But the system is perfect. No need to change a perfect system.
Cosmo Kramer
10/19/14 11:31pm
This is a nice thought, but the reality is different
jhingman
10/19/14 11:50pm
Everything is predictable and telegraphed
kotacoug
10/20/14 12:08am
Fajardo knew where the blitz was coming from on every play
BYU '80
10/20/14 4:58am
This is said every time BYU loses, but there is little proof.
Blugar
10/19/14 11:15pm
Bogus. They aren't NFL guys, but they are better than the crap USU and Reno
The Lone Wolf
10/19/14 11:17pm
They may be bigger, but they sure as heck aren't faster.
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:19pm
Is our lack of speed why our 5th string RB averaged 12 yards/carry?
Blugar
10/19/14 11:22pm
I'm talking about D line. I think we have excellent talent at RB,
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:24pm
3-4 is supposed to have "heavy" DL. LBs should have the speed.
Blugar
10/19/14 11:25pm
We have the worst linebacking group since before Lavell.
TSH_Rapid_Resp_Team
10/19/14 11:26pm
Totally agree with you on stout and Pikula painfully slow
kotacoug
10/20/14 12:10am
or you can not be so lopsided and blame both.
southernfriedcougar
10/19/14 11:21pm
If the last 3 losses were to Alabama, Oregon, and Florida State, then you'd have
AndyDwyer
10/19/14 11:22pm
This is a ridiculous argument... Pittsburgcoug nailed it
kotacoug
10/19/14 11:24pm
RE: The reason for BYU's failure is very simple: The players aren't very good
fan32
10/19/14 11:24pm
Wow. Bronco Clevlandhall must be the most unlucky guy on the planet...
swingcat
10/19/14 11:34pm
You do realize I said the blame for recruiting is squarely on the coaches?
jhingman
10/19/14 11:40pm
Look, pal. There's a lot of negative responses to the OP because it was a
swingcat
10/19/14 11:48pm
I'd love for you to show a logical response as to how it was a poor point
jhingman
10/20/14 12:03am
OK. I'll give it a try...
swingcat
10/20/14 1:48am
Hey, that was better than I expected
jhingman
10/20/14 9:20am
It comes off as a defense of the coaches pretending to be a slight criticism
CougarEatU
10/20/14 1:58am
(fart sound)
FILIKU
10/20/14 4:38am
Flip your logic around: the measure of a good coach is best made when he/they
unctoothman
10/20/14 6:24am
Put Bronco in charge of D and watch, automatic improvement guaranteed
jonnnylingo
10/20/14 9:15am
In reality, the truth is likely somewhere in the middle. The players we now have
Real Men Wear Blue
10/20/14 9:31am
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mr_thekid
10/21/14 6:45pm
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