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Oct 22, 2014
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OpusX
If you were at Duke, you wouldn't think that. Neither would I.
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Why are fans giving Dave Rose a pass?
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:07am
because he is not Bronco. And very few fan bases can hate both FB & BB coaches.
BlueFrog
10/22/14 8:08am
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Acorn
10/22/14 8:24am
You're putting the cart before the horse, it's football season. Let's cross that
CougarBuckeye-BYUI
10/22/14 9:22am
You're not going to convince anyone of Bronco's greatness by bashing Rose
BlueK
10/22/14 8:09am
I'm not saying Bronco's great or Rose is lame. I'm saying they're the same
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:10am
Yes you are
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:14am
You missed "I'm actually strongly on the Dave Rose bandwagon...
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:25am
Saying that after running down his major accomplishments and exagerrating his
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:33am
welcome to Bronco's life on CB!
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:35am
I dont think those who have gone after Bronco have turned around and proclaimed
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:43am
the sports are not the same, so good comparisons are not really possible
BlueK
10/22/14 8:14am
Because basketball isn't football.
IGlowInTheDark
10/22/14 8:10am
Great logic … but how is it really that different? Is losing to Loyola
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:13am
In basketball you can lose to the worst team in the country...
IGlowInTheDark
10/22/14 8:14am
not only that, but the nature of the game is different and makes those kinds of
BlueK
10/22/14 8:18am
So the lack of a football inclusive playoff means Bronco is a worse coach?
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:20am
The best way I can sum up your comparison is like this:
IGlowInTheDark
10/22/14 8:21am
The Jimmer season bought Rose more time. Bronco hasn't had a season like that
Walter Bellhaven
10/22/14 8:11am
This would have been Bronco's Jimmer season if Taysom hadn't been injured
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:14am
That is what happens when you base your success on a running QB with
Walter Bellhaven
10/22/14 8:17am
Very true! I think we all knew it was only a matter of time he could potentially
Chazz Reinhold
10/22/14 8:25am
You're right. It was dumb of Rose to put all of his eggs and shot attempts in
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:27am
Is that an accurate comparison? Be honest.
Walter Bellhaven
10/22/14 8:29am
All that shooting may have worn out Jimmer's arm. Just as predictable as a
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:45am
My point is all of Rose's eggs were in that one basket, as evidenced by
runnincoug
10/22/14 9:51am
But there is far less chance that that fails than a running QB
Walter Bellhaven
10/22/14 10:13am
Sure, I agree with everything you said. My main point is that the Jimmer team
runnincoug
10/22/14 11:23am
Rose has plenty of critics on this board
concolor couguar
10/22/14 11:25am
Re: Rose doesn't have the benefit of a Lavell Edwards who came in, won a NC
Schultz is back
10/22/14 8:22am
To be honest, I think he has done a pretty poor job as of late.
thebruce
10/22/14 8:12am
also, even if we had Taysom, our team still wouldn't be a legit top 10 team.
thebruce
10/22/14 8:16am
Rose's defense was a train wreck too that year, and Bronco has beaten Texas
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:18am
his defense was solid that year. Jackson, KC, Abouo, Hartsock, and even Davies
thebruce
10/22/14 8:29am
Defense was top 3 in the conference if you consider pace
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:30am
Wait are you talking 2011? or last year?
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:31am
You're right, I got my years mixed up. It was after that year that D went down
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:36am
I was referring to the defense last year. It was average last year given pace
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:42am
Fire Dave Rose!
Blueto
10/22/14 8:12am
1. Rose is more personally like-able than Bronco.
shoganai
10/22/14 8:14am
I really think this is it…if we admit it, it's just because Rose is easier to
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:17am
If this was Bronco's first chance at a "Jimmer" season then you'd have a point.
shoganai
10/22/14 8:22am
It just seems petty to say, "Fire the coach because, er, he doesn't love me"
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:23am
That does seem petty. Who said that?
shoganai
10/22/14 8:24am
If you admit that we don't like Bronco because of his personality instead of
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:26am
Very few people on CB want to fire Bronco.
shoganai
10/22/14 8:30am
They did a poll on this. I actually think it's like 50/50, and the 50% wanting
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:31am
I don't think it's 50-50.
shoganai
10/22/14 8:33am
agreed. its performance. i don't care how many firesides he holds. and even
johnnycarson
10/22/14 8:32am
RE: 1. Rose is more personally like-able than Bronco.
Twin Roots
10/22/14 8:17am
Wait, you mean missing personnel matters?
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:21am
RE: Wait, you mean missing personnel matters?
Twin Roots
10/22/14 8:31am
(rose won 2 tourney games without davies and was a hair from the final 4)
johnnycarson
10/22/14 8:34am
BYU football isn't about the coaches and players, it's about the fans
OpusX
10/22/14 8:17am
I agree that I wish he was better about this, but do we want a coach or a PR guy
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:21am
Football>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bas ketball
byutx
10/22/14 8:19am
If you were at Duke, you wouldn't think that. Neither would I.
OpusX
10/22/14 8:21am
Look at the numbers, Duke Football still makes more than double what Duke
TheDeek
10/22/14 8:21am
Duke fans don't care more about Duke football. The money comes from P5
BlueK
10/22/14 8:27am
and yet, in the last few years, they've learned how to play the foosball
TheDeek
10/22/14 8:28am
And The Lego Movie made a bunch more money than 12 Years a Slave
OpusX
10/22/14 8:29am
I'd rather watch The Lego Movie than Duke Basketball... talk about a snooze fest
TheDeek
10/22/14 8:34am
Why do you think you get to decide how other people esteem various sports?
byutx
10/22/14 8:29am
This... when Basketball stinks, BYU loses maybe $1MM.... When Football stinks
TheDeek
10/22/14 8:21am
so it's just about money? In that case, let's let Holmoe decide if Bronco is ok
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:22am
It's always about Money... P5 vs G5 is all about money
TheDeek
10/22/14 8:22am
In that case, in looking for a new coach, let's make marketability the
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:29am
holy cow, seriously... re-read what you just posted. Edit it before I respond...
TheDeek
10/22/14 8:36am
There is not really much that separates Rose and Bronco at this point
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:21am
Every Rose has its thorn
braddahmike
10/22/14 8:27am
Because he had cancer.
John Doe
10/22/14 8:28am
there's something to be said for this. Rose won the media overcoming that
runnincoug
10/22/14 8:30am
But he's also the best basketball coach we've ever had
BlueK
10/22/14 8:38am
Dave Rose's coaching tree at least has a head coach in it.
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:34am
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roseyscenario
10/22/14 8:44am
Rose and Bronco are both fine coaches and both deserve more support
Coogar2
10/22/14 8:47am
He only has to be one of the 64 teams selected
BYU4eVeR
10/22/14 8:48am
64/340 = top 18% in D1. I guarantee Bronco would be very well liked if his teams
BlueK
10/22/14 8:50am
3 years since his last conference championship and he is actually really
concolor couguar
10/22/14 8:53am
Has Dave Rose ever lost 8 straight games? That right there is the equivalent to
sandtrapcougar
10/22/14 8:55am
Rose more effective for the greater mission?
roseyscenario
10/22/14 8:57am
Very different sports. Should be winning much more given the talent in
Jam Master J
10/22/14 8:59am
Fans can make lame excuses about PR skills and so forth
Indy Coug
10/22/14 9:00am
I would be thrilled with a top 25 finish. That is my measure for Bronco and it
concolor couguar
10/22/14 9:02am
Yes, exactly.
runnincoug
10/22/14 9:58am
Great write up. I'm 100% on board with your thoughts
nslscougar
10/22/14 9:20am
I like the way Rose substitutes for the most part. I hate the way bronco deals
budYu
10/22/14 9:31am
Yes, let's just criticize anyone and everyone whenever they lose...
cougarnerd
10/22/14 9:47am
It's fair. They are professionals, we can criticize them because we pay $$ to
thebruce
10/22/14 9:50am
On the player development issue it is much easier to make the NFL than NBA
Blue Cougar
10/22/14 10:55am
Still, Bronco has had stars in the NFL, legitimate stars. And yet we say he
runnincoug
10/22/14 11:24am
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