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Oct 23, 2014
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BlueFrog
RE: Yes. You don't know the intentions of the person but you know they
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POLL: You hear a noise in the middle of the night, you grab your gun to
Mister P
10/23/14 9:46am
I have a really heavy baseball training bat .... I'd rap him pretty good with
Jhayes
10/23/14 9:47am
If I live in a state where I'm not required to retreat or give warning when
supertux
10/23/14 9:49am
You would be ok shooting and killingan unarmed 14 year old looking for some cash
Jhayes
10/23/14 9:53am
Yes. You don't know the intentions of the person but you know they
CrackerJack
10/23/14 9:57am
RE: Yes. You don't know the intentions of the person but you know they
BlueFrog
10/23/14 9:58am
That's a significantly different situation.
CrackerJack
10/23/14 10:00am
dead is dead. RIP PopPop
BlueFrog
10/23/14 10:01am
Outcome is the same but how you get there makes all the difference.
CrackerJack
10/23/14 10:02am
Totally different scenario. Breaking into my house is not the same as knocking
supertux
10/23/14 10:00am
Not remotely the same situation.
spoxjox
10/23/14 12:01pm
If it was a 14yo kid I still wouldn't warn him that I have a gun. If he was
supertux
10/23/14 9:58am
I think the chances of them running away after hearing you have a gun are far
Jhayes
10/23/14 10:01am
Are you willing to bet your life, and your family's lives, on that?
CrackerJack
10/23/14 10:01am
Stop trying to marginalize the danger of home intrusion.
SandYFan
10/23/14 10:04am
I think you are marginalizing the effects of ending someones life. Especially
Jhayes
10/23/14 10:09am
In every case it can be avoided...IF THE PERSON DOESN'T BREAK IN.
supertux
10/23/14 10:14am
Obviously, but like I said you would be the one living with the guilt of killing
Jhayes
10/23/14 10:25am
The toll it would take if anything happened to my family (regardless of whether
supertux
10/23/14 10:27am
I totally get and agree with that. I just think steps should be taken to not
Jhayes
10/23/14 10:30am
I agree. The steps I take are locking and alarming my doors and windows.
supertux
10/23/14 10:32am
This is right on. They made the effort by stealth or brute force to break in..
Cachanilla83
10/23/14 10:41am
Exactly. Any guilt I would have would be orders of magnitude less than the
workindev
10/23/14 10:32am
I would rather live with the regret of killing an intruder than live with the
k-ace
10/23/14 10:33am
Thats fine, I guess I'll scare them off and you can shoot first and ask question
Jhayes
10/23/14 10:36am
If you have a shotgun, just rack in a shell. Then you have both sides covered.
supertux
10/23/14 10:39am
What is plan B if your attempts to scare them off only succeed in alterting them
workindev
10/23/14 10:41am
What is your plan if you start a shootout in your own home? Where your family
Jhayes
10/23/14 10:45am
Keep shooting until I can't anymore. Let me guess, you'll keep shouting until
supertux
10/23/14 10:47am
Exactly, this isn't the movies. You've got kids and a wife in much greater
Jhayes
10/23/14 10:50am
My plan is to be a good shot so they don't get the chance to shoot back
workindev
10/23/14 11:43am
I think your opinion is perfectly fine as people need to make their own choices
Cachanilla83
10/23/14 10:47am
I love reading true crime stuff, I'll check it out.
Jhayes
10/23/14 10:51am
Read it in full daylight before going to bed.
Cachanilla83
10/23/14 10:56am
RE: I think you are marginalizing the effects of ending someones life.
Northwest Cougar
10/23/14 10:42am
If you break into someone's home, all bets are off.
SandYFan
10/23/14 10:00am
You may be guilty of murder in Utah if you shoot an intruder without warning.
Cougar-Duck
10/23/14 10:03am
This is my point. It doesn't take much to satisfy that law. If someone forcibly
supertux
10/23/14 10:12am
If there's a jury that would convict someone of murder for that
SandYFan
10/23/14 10:12am
I read through that quickly so I might have missed something..
Cachanilla83
10/23/14 10:55am
Except that home intrusion is not a forcible felony. But robbery and
Cougar-Duck
10/23/14 11:22am
Home Intrusion May not technically be forcible felony.
Cachanilla83
10/23/14 11:32am
If someone breaks into your home, it's likely that you will believe they are...
CougaReb
10/23/14 11:34am
Offenses against Property. I think that's the proper term.
Cachanilla83
10/23/14 11:34am
And who is going to tell the cops there was no warning given?
frontrowcougar
10/23/14 1:02pm
Have I been threatened in the past? Am I drunk? Am I famous and often fear for
TheDeek
10/23/14 9:56am
Ha! This has nothing to do with him. I was just curious to see what most would
Mister P
10/23/14 9:59am
My solution:
frontrowcougar
10/23/14 10:01am
A large knife would make a quicker resolution.
Y2k
10/23/14 10:01am
Michael Myers?
TNT
10/23/14 10:11am
Crocodile Dundee
Cougar-Duck
10/23/14 10:22am
are we assuming that you identify the intruder first?
IndependentGeorge
10/23/14 10:04am
I assume we know it's not a girlfriend using the bathroom.
Y2k
10/23/14 10:06am
...but if in doubt, just empty your magazine through the bathroom door.
CougaReb
10/23/14 11:37am
Yes. I used "intruder" to imply you don't know them at all.
Mister P
10/23/14 10:07am
Get my kids and have them help me shoot the intruder.
unctoothman
10/23/14 11:56am
You never warn them you have a gun. You tell them to stop and leave.
OldCosmo
10/23/14 12:17pm
Good post, thats what I was getting at but in a much worse way.
Jhayes
10/23/14 12:21pm
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