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Oct 24, 2014
10:25:54am

donnerstag

You are attacking a straw man

He never said that bad seasons didn't happen to Lavell. He merely pointed out that Bronco is getting whopped by the in-state schools and that the program is in an abyss from 2010-2013. If he'd sprinkle in a 14-1 season in the middle of all that, it'd be a different analysis.

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donnerstag

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What is Derik's explanation for BYU going 7-4 in '95 and 6-5 in '97?

10/24/14 10:16am

every BYU player there ever was (every player of any team really)

10/24/14 10:19am

What's your explanation for the fact that he was ranked top 10 in '96 and this:

titlecoug

10/24/14 10:20am

I'm not the one attacking the current coaches

10/24/14 10:22am

It hasn't been just a "couple" games

SBJ

10/24/14 10:23am

This. The record since 2010 is simply unacceptable.

slowhiteguy

10/24/14 10:24am

BYU lost 15 games while Derik was there

10/24/14 10:27am

He also beat Utah multiple times, had a great 96 season,

SBJ

10/24/14 10:52am

It's not a couple games. It's 5 seasons of mediocrity. The reason I supported

titlecoug

10/24/14 10:24am

It isn't just the loses under Bronco, it is the culture, stagnation, lack of

slowhiteguy

10/24/14 10:20am

those all change with wins

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:22am

BYU lost twice to Utah while Derik was there

10/24/14 10:26am

Bronco has lost to Utah 6 times, won 3.

slowhiteguy

10/24/14 10:32am

They also beat Utah, something Bronco hasn't done as an Independent

SBJ

10/24/14 10:53am

Lavell is very grateful that the internet wasn't as important then

2FarGone

10/24/14 10:21am

On Cougartalk there were plenty of posters calling for Lavell's head

10/24/14 10:29am

I like that he takes credit for building the bldgs at byu pointing out bronco's

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:21am

It's a good point

SoCalCoug

10/24/14 10:22am

they are also a direct result of the contractors, the church

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:28am

It's a ridiculous point

10/24/14 10:30am

About half of his rant was legit and the other half was just plain stupid

binghammer

10/24/14 10:22am

You are attacking a straw man

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:25am

in state schools were terrible in the Lavell years

binghammer

10/24/14 10:27am

BYU stole all of the recruits.

thebruce

10/24/14 10:31am

Utah and Utah State aren't exactly juggernauts these days either

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:32am

Both programs have had more success in recent years than ever before

binghammer

10/24/14 10:33am

he was ok with it because in between the two seasons you mention

thebruce

10/24/14 10:27am

So if Bronco has a 12-1 season next year all will be forgiven?

10/24/14 10:31am

i forgot bronco won a NC in the past

El Joffrey

10/24/14 10:32am

That's the criteria?

10/24/14 10:38am

yes. if he beats top tier teams en route

thebruce

10/24/14 10:48am

yes, they will be forgiven (for a couple years). esp with next year's schedule.

byujag

10/24/14 10:37am

Won't happen, so you can stop living in fantasy land.

SBJ

10/24/14 10:54am

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