I don't think it's a secret that some ex-players are not happy

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Oct 24, 2014
10:41:56am

donnerstag

I don't think it's a secret that some ex-players are not happy

with consistently losing to in-state schools and the program being mired in mediocrity. The minimum damage control from the article is that Howell needs to be demoted. People will forget all the other stuff if Bronco take the reins of the defense and the teams starts winning again with the defense looking good.

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donnerstag

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I appreciate Derik's desire to see the program succeed.

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:29am

What is it with people getting scared by public opposition?

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:31am

Better to ask that in FO.

BluePete

10/24/14 10:32am

I don't think it is being scared by public opposition as much as it is

kalifi

10/24/14 10:33am

Derik is a straight shooter

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:38am

He crosses a line tho

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:40am

Derik will tweet TH the link to make sure he sees it

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:42am

Just ranting to TH does very little

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:46am

He shouldn't be writing...like the OP said-be a straight shooter

kalifi

10/24/14 10:43am

straight shooter in a crowd ha

Big Daddy D

10/24/14 10:44am

exactly...wrong venue...pick a better target to shoot at.

kalifi

10/24/14 10:45am

It's not about being scared, it's about not doing anything to hurt public

ldssdl

10/24/14 10:34am

Hurt the public perception of BYU? Losing three in a row will do that worse than

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:37am

Yes, losing 3 games in a row hurts. But this is making it worse than it has to b

ldssdl

10/24/14 10:44am

It's making it as bad as it really is

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:46am

That's a pretty subjective argument

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:51am

The OP is a subjective argument, your own posts are subjective

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:55am

Good point, I'll concede to that, that's what this whole board is (mostly)

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:59am

It doesn't help. Even in the constructive critisizing argument

SUAVO

10/24/14 10:45am

Effective is the key word here.

dratax

10/24/14 10:40am

Not scared of opposition

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:47am

You think TH can't read an article? It's also far easier to dismiss a single

DapperDan

10/24/14 10:52am

Yeah he can but getting a group and speaking face-to-face is more effective IMO

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 11:46am

1) hurts team focus notice players already are speaking out 2) hurts recruiting

BYUfan92

10/24/14 11:15am

We sometimes forget how young these players are.

BluePete

10/24/14 11:23am

A lot of these guys are as old as professional athletes.

mr_thekid

10/24/14 12:08pm

True. But that wasn't my point. There are enough kids...yes, kids.

BluePete

10/24/14 12:27pm

A team that can't focus due to an article will lose games because they're

DapperDan

10/24/14 11:24am

I'm just saying there is a better platform to get his message across.

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 11:50am

How do you know that's a better method?

DapperDan

10/24/14 11:51am

How is it not?

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 11:57am

First it's naive to think Holmoe won't at least hear about the article so he'll

DapperDan

10/24/14 12:03pm

Never did I say Tom won't see it.

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 12:58pm

I notice you left out any details of what you expect would happen

DapperDan

10/24/14 1:03pm

Me too, but I agree he was way mean and it was scary/uncomfortable

ChopperDave

10/24/14 10:32am

Sorry that your feelings, and Bronco's got hurt. Rub some dirt on them.

coug203

10/24/14 10:37am

Derik's agenda is to get Bronco fired and to get Sitake hired

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:35am

Hurts recruiting this year too IMO

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:37am

How much does a guy who none of them have ever heard of move the needle?

concolor couguar

10/24/14 10:39am

Sure doesn't help

LDTemplar

10/24/14 12:33pm

certainly but that was not the argument being made.

concolor couguar

10/24/14 1:14pm

I don't think it's a secret that some ex-players are not happy

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:41am

Then if they aren't happy go to someone who has a say in the decision!

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:45am

...and if Sitake gets hired...

kalifi

10/24/14 10:39am

You overestimate Derik's influence

donnerstag

10/24/14 10:44am

You misunderstand...

kalifi

10/24/14 10:51am

So what?

donnerstag

10/24/14 11:00am

Then to your point it is irrelevant if Bronco stays.

kalifi

10/24/14 11:07am

If the program stays at status quo, then the article thrashes Howell and Bronco

donnerstag

10/24/14 11:19am

Great comments

LDTemplar

10/24/14 12:35pm

Are there links to Poppinga and Alisa's responses?

FiveTen-BuckEighty

10/24/14 10:37am

I didn't hear Pop's but Derik called him out

canadiancougar624

10/24/14 10:38am

I'd just like to see Mike run around a blocker for a sack for him this year.....

lawboy

10/24/14 11:00am

Yep - we need a big game from him tonight. Run around the tackle for Bronco

FiveTen-BuckEighty

10/24/14 11:02am

So a player and a current coaches brother support their coach?

10/24/14 12:13pm

According to these tweets, he claims he has already gone to Tom Holmoe

10/24/14 1:42pm

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