True. And that's bad news. Play calling is easier to grow into than knowing

Dec 17, 2014
12:43:00pm

Shimmy

how to be a good coach. I think this is where the "system is perfect" and Bronco's trust of Howell comes into play.

Bronco trusts the system, and trusts Howell to run the "perfect" system. The problems with individuals seem to overtake that.

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criddle just said D problems were more personnel driven than Howell'splaycalling

Undefeated

12/17/14 12:33pm

Totally agree

Ebolarama

12/17/14 12:33pm

It's not just the play calling that was the problem...

Smoke Monster

12/17/14 12:34pm

Game prep, teaching fundamentals, developing players...

SandYFan

12/17/14 12:36pm

You realize we have the same exact D coaches this year as last year

Freddie Cougar

12/17/14 12:51pm

There was one big difference this year, and that's Bronco. Until this year,

CalGTR

12/17/14 1:36pm

But the position coaches are in charge of fundamentals

Freddie Cougar

12/17/14 1:45pm

Bronco plays a big role in motivation and accountability. It makes a big

CalGTR

12/17/14 2:28pm

Bronco's style creates chemistry and unity that Howell can't replicate

jonnnylingo

12/17/14 4:12pm

But we're not talking about that, we're talking teaching fundamentals.

Freddie Cougar

12/18/14 6:22am

Defense against Utah State and Boise State was embarrassing

Mathlete

12/17/14 12:37pm

Link?

BluePete

12/17/14 12:38pm

RE: Link?

Funke

12/17/14 12:41pm

Talentless D Line, extremely young LB'ers, A secondary that couldn't hold up

Ebolarama

12/17/14 12:38pm

Thing is, Bronco recruited for and built that defense. So he is also responsible

Mathlete

12/17/14 12:40pm

I can't argue that. I'm just agreeing that Howell didnt have a ton to work with.

Ebolarama

12/17/14 12:44pm

You think it's an easy thing to produce top 25 defenses yearly ?

ManicBlue

12/17/14 12:46pm

Injuries didn't play a part? There are articles now pointing out

Cougarpride

12/17/14 1:47pm

With all its negativity and ill will

vaquero

12/17/14 5:46pm

So explain the offensive being successful?

Smoke Monster

12/18/14 8:01am

Wow, it took all of one minute for you to jump on a perceived opportunity to

basman

12/17/14 1:59pm

When you choose the wrong players to develop and play

kotacoug

12/17/14 12:38pm

Did Bronco suddenly forget how to coach? Did the game pass him by?

BluePete

12/17/14 12:43pm

did not realize Bronco was the def co ordinator.....but if so

kotacoug

12/17/14 1:04pm

Who were all these "wrong" players?

Freddie Cougar

12/17/14 12:51pm

How many other Kai Nacuas are riding pine

kotacoug

12/17/14 5:55pm

Nacua didn't play because he didn't show in practice that he was ready

Freddie Cougar

12/18/14 6:21am

Do you have some examples?

LDTemplar

12/17/14 10:49pm

Both.

Grit for Brains

12/17/14 12:39pm

In what way? A lack in talent, knowledge, discipline, maturity, or any or all

cougarick

12/17/14 12:39pm

Personnel=talent

Crush4

12/17/14 12:46pm

The D problems were execution driven.

newey-west

12/17/14 12:40pm

They were taught, they didnt do. Big difference.

Ebolarama

12/17/14 12:44pm

Exactly, some act like BYU is the first time these players have played football

ManicBlue

12/17/14 12:53pm

No, but it is the case that players get lazy and forget proper fundamentals.

newey-west

12/17/14 12:54pm

and I know for a fact the coaches stressed those fundamentals in practices

ManicBlue

12/17/14 12:56pm

I don't disagree. However, you can't discount the fact that HOW you teach

newey-west

12/17/14 1:00pm

Sure but are you saying BYU's defensive coaches weren't teaching them correctly?

ManicBlue

12/17/14 1:21pm

It's funny to be on this side of the argument, because normally I'm supporting

newey-west

12/17/14 2:02pm

RE: It's funny to be on this side of the argument, because normally I'm

ManicBlue

12/17/14 2:06pm

I think its more the players not executing would have been sat but BYU doesn't

Ebolarama

12/17/14 12:59pm

signed- Nacua.

southernfriedcougar

12/17/14 2:29pm

1 player. Sweet.

Ebolarama

12/18/14 9:45am

fundamentals break down when you're out of position

Deadpool

12/17/14 1:33pm

As if you know?

southernfriedcougar

12/17/14 12:54pm

Our current players disagree with that.

CougDogg-e-Dogg

12/17/14 3:27pm

So last season this coaching staff taught them, but this season it didn't?

Freddie Cougar

12/17/14 12:53pm

Link

newey-west

12/17/14 12:54pm

True. And that's bad news. Play calling is easier to grow into than knowing

Shimmy

12/17/14 12:43pm

play calling wasn't his huge problem.

southernfriedcougar

12/17/14 12:53pm

Yup, indicated they called the same calls the year prior and before, just didn't

ocmyhome

12/17/14 12:57pm

Well, Bronco keeping Howell on staff will create all sorts of personnel problems

TheDeek

12/17/14 12:57pm

What proof of this do you have. One major "D" player loves Howell

Cougarpride

12/17/14 1:50pm

Except that Leavitt WAS playing.

ChubbyChaser

12/17/14 1:53pm

You may consider the other reasons for Leavitt's departure

Cougarpride

12/17/14 3:01pm

RE: You may consider the other reasons for Leavitt's departure

Cougarpride

12/17/14 3:02pm

One major "D" player is also Howell's brother-in-law....

TheDeek

12/17/14 2:08pm

Who was better than the other players at his position. Weird how he got time huh

Ebolarama

12/17/14 2:29pm

Truth to it, but that is a simplistic explanation.

lawboy

12/17/14 1:04pm

How about maybe teaching the players responsibility, showing them film etc?

slowhiteguy

12/17/14 1:50pm

I know. I can't believe we quit watching film this year. That was a big mistake.

Undefeated

12/17/14 2:39pm

Whoa--they seriously stopped watching film? When did this come out?

newey-west

12/17/14 5:04pm

smh

ManicBlue

12/17/14 5:12pm

newey-west

12/18/14 7:08am

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