.. or you could see what I do in just 90 days not using p 90 x or any other work out and try it youraelf if it does me any good.. so far a few years ago when i lost 70 pounds of fat in 12 weeks...SOME people were interested and asked questions and helped themselves... no one is forcing you to read health posts.. Considering it is just over teh halfway point..whatever I'm doing..is working..oh and I'm in a contest with three other guys,,ages 18, 23 and 32..all younger than me...shorter...and I'm kicking their rears. since you wanted to know.