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Mar 29, 2015
11:31:43pm

The Old Y

Have you read Malcom Gladwell's David vs Goliath? The data suggest a big fish in

a little pond proves better in the long run assuming he is in the bottom 2/3 at Stanford. If he can be a shining star in the Standford undergrad then do it (top 20%). But if the expectation is he is going to be in the middle of the pack vs some of the best minds in the country then his success both during and after school will be better served where he can be the big fish in the little pond.

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The Old Y

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would you advise a kid to go to Stanford or BYU

Snorky

3/29/15 10:49pm

Stanford.

mulletYno

3/29/15 10:50pm

almost never a reason to an elite school for undergrad

3/29/15 10:50pm

Tuition is free. Go Stanford.

RSLCoug

3/29/15 10:51pm

He said it would be free if he is admitted.

mulletYno

3/29/15 10:51pm

Stanford tuition is free if parents make under 125k

Snorky

3/29/15 10:53pm

Just ran their calculator for 110k income, 300k home

wYred

3/30/15 12:22am

link

Snorky

3/29/15 10:54pm

Read deeper

wYred

3/30/15 12:05am

This. If Stanford were free, I would go there, but

Y Mountain

3/30/15 8:17am

It's a lot easier to get into grad school from an elite school

AxelDC

3/30/15 6:40pm

I attended grad school at Stanford and....

EV94305

3/30/15 6:50pm

If tuition is free I would choose stanford

3/29/15 10:51pm

If he has a strong testimony.... Stanford.

kotacoug

3/29/15 10:52pm

Stanford. BYU a great school, but its not elite. Especially for his interests.

QueenCityCoug

3/29/15 10:54pm

Good problem to have.

Y'zFan

3/29/15 10:57pm

Is a 4.0 good enough to get in to Stanford?

Remigius

3/29/15 10:57pm

In all seriousness - it may not be. A kid has to either be connected or also

TrueAndBlue

3/29/15 11:42pm

I applied in 2006 to see if I would make it -I was going to BYU even if I got in

rggee

3/30/15 5:51am

My coworkers son just found out he didn't get in to Stanford with those same

3/30/15 6:13am

Like I said, I would have chosen BYU anyway because $$$$

rggee

3/30/15 6:28am

Most places you don't get above a 4.0 no matter how many A's or

Cochise Cat

3/30/15 9:13am

I don't think that is true

Remigius

3/30/15 10:50am

I assumed he meant an unweighted 4.0

rggee

3/30/15 10:55am

Exactly. Straight A's is a 4.0 in most places. Not straight B's.

Cochise Cat

3/30/15 11:50am

I wouldn't trade my undergrad at BYU for anything. Grad school is different.

JDBlue

3/29/15 11:01pm

If he's a white male that won't be good enough for Stanford

BYUCoug11

3/29/15 11:02pm

^^ This. He's going to have to get a 34+ to even have a chance.

Noni Fruit

3/29/15 11:07pm

Agree, he may need to pull an Elizabeth Warren

darkcoug

3/29/15 11:23pm

Stanford has to have a pretty decent # of LDS students, no? Its Cali.

QueenCityCoug

3/29/15 11:03pm

The student ward at Standord has a good reputation

BYUCoug11

3/29/15 11:05pm

It has a good institute program

donnerstag

3/29/15 11:22pm

Full of people who did their undergrad at byu. I know 5 lds kids who

travelcoug

3/30/15 7:31am

You get a lot of intellectuals at Stanford without religion

donnerstag

3/30/15 9:53am

Pedigree does not matter that much for undergrad

AzCoug1

3/29/15 11:10pm

Sounds like to be honest Stanford would be a reach for him. But,

buckles

3/29/15 11:18pm

There is no bad option between the two

donnerstag

3/29/15 11:19pm

The question we care about is: Is your nephew a 5 star football player?

RSLCoug

3/29/15 11:20pm

If he really excels in engineering and hard sciences, he should consider a

SanFran

3/29/15 11:22pm

Stanford.

3/29/15 11:24pm

Have you read Malcom Gladwell's David vs Goliath? The data suggest a big fish in

The Old Y

3/29/15 11:31pm

BYU

SaintGeorgeYFan

3/29/15 11:49pm

My nephew got a 35 ACT, 4.0. Parent income under 125k... Stanford still too $$$$

wYred

3/29/15 11:54pm

BYU. Let him do Stanford for grad school.

2FarGone

3/30/15 12:17am

BYU. Where you got your degree does not determine your success.

JamesDean

3/30/15 12:26am

^^^ I had the same job on Wall Street as my IVY-league colleagues w/ $200k debt.

MightyFreakingCougar

3/30/15 1:28am

Out of undergrad. Stanford is clearly the better choice for Graduate school

MightyFreakingCougar

3/30/15 1:30am

Probably easier to get good grades at BYU (if he wants to become a surgeon)

byuwahoo

3/30/15 5:41am

N=1, but my buddy I did pre-med courses with at BYU had spent 2 years

3/30/15 5:55am

BYU undergrad. Stanford grad school. Best of both worlds.

kccougar

3/30/15 6:23am

I think this is the best answer. BYU provides a number of other experiences

WorfoSAUR

3/30/15 7:30am

BYU undergrad can get you into any med school that Stanford can.

Littlerich

3/30/15 6:28am

^^both kc and littlerich are correct

3/30/15 6:46am

It will not be free, my niece had better numbers than that

JOPE

3/30/15 7:59am

Stanford. No question.

spinner

3/30/15 8:03am

BYU... The only question is why this is a question.

AzCoug1

3/30/15 8:18am

You don't understand why someone would go to Stanford, especially if...

3/30/15 10:35am

I would appreciate any free school...

AzCoug1

4/1/15 7:08am

I have degrees from both. I have taught at both. My kids will go to BYU.

EV94305

3/30/15 8:27am

Yes, I would.

3/30/15 10:43am

RE: would you advise a kid to go to Stanford or BYU

Bullrider

3/30/15 10:52am

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