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May 4, 2015
2:37:12pm

Alister Mackenzie

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Alister Mackenzie

Previous username: chief osceola
Bio page: Alister Mackenzie
Joined: Nov 3, 2003
Last login: Mar 3, 2021
Total posts: 21,194 (172 FO)

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What is it with young moms in the church that feel like giving birth

TexanY

5/4/15 2:25pm

You can remove "in the church" from your rant and it works just fine.

kccougar

5/4/15 2:27pm

RE: What is it with young moms in the church that feel like giving birth

concolor couguar

5/4/15 2:27pm

One of my kids and my wife are alive today because she was in a hospital.

coolblue

5/4/15 2:43pm

If something goes wrong, no amount of money you save could compensate your loss.

mikeynolikey

5/4/15 2:54pm

Wow, my last was over $5k with insurance. No complications.

PharmD

5/4/15 2:59pm

Cheaper if you don't have insurance. They'll jack it up as much as they can

tebowned

5/4/15 3:55pm

I recommend starting the epidural in month 5

Sea Chicken

5/4/15 2:28pm

I'm enjoying an epidural as we speak.

Rich Lather

5/4/15 2:29pm

I wonder what they'll do when a baby dies on them.

Mister P

5/4/15 2:29pm

This is the exact reason I think it's sheer stupidity. ULTIMATE price if wrong.

5/4/15 2:37pm

Mommy blogtographers are getting more advanced.

Triggerhappybunny

5/4/15 2:30pm

Not arguing for either here but the human race was able to successfully give

vacougfan

5/4/15 2:30pm

Yeah. Ignore mortality rate.

WDaddy

5/4/15 2:31pm

Well duh.

vacougfan

5/4/15 2:32pm

Yeah, third world countries are full of mid-wives. We should try to be more like

Mister P

5/4/15 2:32pm

I'll take what was the US Infant Mortality Rate in the 1900's, Alex

darkcoug

5/4/15 2:33pm

My wife uses a midwife. We give birth at the hospital.

Alister Mackenzie

5/4/15 2:31pm

This seems like the most common sense approach.

vacougfan

5/4/15 2:32pm

I wouldn't let my wife deliver outside of a hospital. I just think that's too

Alister Mackenzie

5/4/15 2:33pm

Haven't got a problem in the world with this strategy. Some women need to feel

5/4/15 2:42pm

I respect this.

TexanY

5/4/15 2:33pm

We give birth?

concolor couguar

5/4/15 2:35pm

I'd say so. If you had nothing to do with the planning, preparation, or delivery

Mister P

5/4/15 2:39pm

If you say so

concolor couguar

5/4/15 2:44pm

This is the male equivalent of "we start dental school next fall !!!"

Non-donor troll

5/4/15 3:05pm

There's a big difference between a Nurse midwife and a weekend class midwife

5/4/15 2:36pm

Yep.

Alister Mackenzie

5/4/15 2:37pm

This. My wife has had a midwife deliver both of our daughters.

ebv

5/4/15 2:54pm

I agree about the epidurals. My wife hated it. She had 1 kid with an epidural,

WDaddy

5/4/15 2:36pm

We've done the same thing

HiLife

5/4/15 2:39pm

Anesthesiologist here

5/4/15 3:24pm

Epidural = best $1k I ever spent.

PharmD

5/4/15 3:27pm

We used a midwife at home for our last four children. Yes, I hate the

cougarim

5/4/15 8:14pm

RE: We used a midwife at home for our last four children. Yes, I hate the

jbcoug

5/5/15 6:46am

Have you missed this entire thread?

King Philip

5/5/15 8:49am

Nope. As far as I can tell

jbcoug

5/5/15 8:57am

So yeah, you haven't read much of this thread. Gotcha.

King Philip

5/5/15 9:26am

One of them is in a huge debate with her soon to be ex-friend over Kate

TexanY

5/4/15 2:33pm

so, you want to give birth in that big building that people go to to die?

TheDeek

5/4/15 2:34pm

We were going to give birth at home but we wanted our baby to live.

Mister P

5/4/15 2:36pm

My wife gave birth to our second child without an epidural.

PharmD

5/4/15 2:34pm

I bet that's some delicious steak and lobster you'll get, too

BYUCoug11

5/4/15 2:35pm

Maybe that is what they do with the afterbirth. Dinner is ruined!

TexanY

5/4/15 2:36pm

Epidurals are the best thing ever. I don't get people,would you get a root canal

Mayor of Cougartown

5/4/15 2:36pm

My sister-in-law has had some side effects from an epidural.

El Jefe

5/4/15 2:40pm

My sister has delivered 5 kids

HiLife

5/4/15 2:43pm

like everything - with few exceptions.

Mayor of Cougartown

5/4/15 2:48pm

You need to be one with the tooth as they extract it. Wow that is some funny

tebowned

5/4/15 3:56pm

Are you delivering at Baylor Frisco?

jbcoug

5/4/15 2:38pm

Yup. Dr. Holt

TexanY

5/4/15 2:39pm

their rants are among the most obnoxious I read/hear.

Belboz

5/4/15 2:38pm

My wife was hospital, epidural with the first two, and then mid wife, birthing

ICBlue

5/4/15 2:39pm

If God didn't want women to use an epidural, why did he create epidural space?

darkcoug

5/4/15 2:40pm

I'm pretty skeptical with alternative medicine, but there's something to natural

runnincoug

5/4/15 2:41pm

Links to studies that show the risks of home births to not be so "tremendous"?

Nathanael Greene

5/4/15 3:18pm

Here

runnincoug

5/4/15 3:23pm

The first link is about cost not risk

concolor couguar

5/4/15 3:33pm

It talks about both. But the point is, look at all of those sources

runnincoug

5/4/15 3:59pm

I only see where it talks about cost

concolor couguar

5/4/15 4:06pm

Fine. But that's a red herring. Look at all the other research.

runnincoug

5/4/15 4:39pm

True science at work.

5/4/15 5:07pm

You made a false claim. That's not a red herring.

Nathanael Greene

5/5/15 7:20am

A red herring is to get distracted by a minor detail. The minor detail

runnincoug

5/5/15 7:26am

Your original post read as though you were claiming medical interventions

concolor couguar

5/5/15 8:31am

Good grief. OK, here

runnincoug

5/5/15 8:42am

I read this last night. Its not bad.

Nathanael Greene

5/5/15 9:07am

Thank you. This is a more helpful/useful discussion.

runnincoug

5/5/15 11:05am

It depends on if they have symptoms that indicate a possible ectopic pregnancy

concolor couguar

5/5/15 11:20am

As I mentioned in my previous my post my issue is not with that portion of your

concolor couguar

5/5/15 9:41am

Excuse my frustration, but can you understand when you are trying to make

runnincoug

5/5/15 10:57am

Im not talking about the article you misrepresented

concolor couguar

5/5/15 11:09am

I did not say that hospitals increase risks. Read again.

runnincoug

5/5/15 12:33pm

I may be younger than some of you, but wasn't an epidural that thing they used

mikeynolikey

5/4/15 2:42pm

Yes, before it was usually a knife under the pillow to cut the pain.

TexanY

5/4/15 2:43pm

I don't get why this even matters, the doctor is there for the pushing only

JOPE

5/4/15 2:43pm

Uh. The Doctor is insurance.

Mister P

5/4/15 2:45pm

my opinion is not anti-doctor

JOPE

5/4/15 2:53pm

Why does the hospital think they can charge my insurance $16k

PharmD

5/4/15 2:45pm

It's the lobster, man. They get you with the lobster and ice chips.

TexanY

5/4/15 2:46pm

Socialized medicine. You're covering the NICU babies.

SandYFan

5/4/15 2:50pm

Not exactly, more like paying my wife to care for those NICU babies. Thank you

ByuMba90

5/4/15 3:00pm

Because this happens when you get meds at the hospital.

Dread Pirate Westley

5/4/15 2:59pm

I don't get this. If you see a regular doctor, they give you plenty of chances

5/4/15 3:01pm

My wife had both our kids with no epidural but she had morphine given for pain

CanuckUte

5/4/15 3:04pm

Why worry about how other people want to give birth? People make

Thrill

5/4/15 3:38pm

This! There's a lot of quakery out there. Natural birth is not one of them.

runnincoug

5/4/15 4:04pm

There is some quackery associated with natural birth as well.

King Philip

5/4/15 4:29pm

The most quacky are always the most vocal, unfortunately. Gives others a bad rep

runnincoug

5/5/15 12:34pm

I've known several women who go in to give birth naturally, and then give in.

sheriffcreg

5/4/15 4:29pm

Dumb is as dumb does.

5/4/15 8:48pm

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