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Jul 7, 2015
11:26:46am

CDV

normally I would agree with you, but you are illustrating otherwise with your

analysis of the aiding and abetting requirement.

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a question for lawyers...

thebruce

7/7/15 10:43am

You should still pay him.

supertux

7/7/15 10:44am

So wait, you hired an illegal immigrant to do some work for you. You were only

Y2k

7/7/15 12:15pm

You have a legal obligation to turn him over to ICE.

db59840

7/7/15 10:45am

You should also do this.

supertux

7/7/15 10:46am

a legal obligation? based on?

CDV

7/7/15 10:47am

Aiding and abetting a crime?

db59840

7/7/15 10:57am

Another fine JD graduate from L&O University

bluebloodedcoug

7/7/15 11:05am

No

CDV

7/7/15 11:09am

How is hiring an illegal immigrant not aiding a crime? In fact, it is itself a

db59840

7/7/15 11:11am

it might be a crime in and of itself, but it is not aiding and abetting.

CDV

7/7/15 11:15am

Crime: seeking employment illegally. Aiding: helping criminal seek employment.

db59840

7/7/15 11:19am

normally I would agree with you, but you are illustrating otherwise with your

CDV

7/7/15 11:26am

Enlighten me then. How is hiring an illegal immigrant NOT aiding him in

db59840

7/7/15 11:27am

Because being an undocumented resident is not, itself, criminal?

ebv

7/7/15 11:30am

What?

db59840

7/7/15 11:33am

Correct. Being in the country unlawfully is not a crime.

ebv

7/7/15 5:12pm

Not a lawyer, but with his criminal history, I'd be afraid of retaliation if I

Flippy

7/7/15 10:45am

Question for humans:

CDV

7/7/15 10:47am

it is more than that.

thebruce

7/7/15 10:49am

IOW I had to pay someone to fix everything he did

thebruce

7/7/15 10:49am

So....was that because he did a really poor job? Had poor direction? Was not

RalphWiggam

7/7/15 10:57am

he was qualified..because I had paid him for previous work

thebruce

7/7/15 11:00am

Then why not simply say...

RalphWiggam

7/7/15 11:12am

both scenarios I wanted legal advice on.

thebruce

7/7/15 11:22am

So you didn't know he was illegal when you hired him?

RalphWiggam

7/7/15 11:38am

this wasn't the first job I used him for.

thebruce

7/7/15 11:44am

You should have been watching him and sent him off the job as soon as you saw

NorthBayCoug

7/7/15 10:57am

You chose him to do the work.

Triggerhappybunny

7/7/15 11:08am

You pay him when he provides his Tax Id number.

Mister P

7/7/15 10:47am

Oh please

NorthBayCoug

7/7/15 10:53am

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supertux

7/7/15 10:53am

You are not required to file if the value of the work is less than $600

donnerstag

7/7/15 10:58am

Pay him what he's owed

NorthBayCoug

7/7/15 10:51am

Yep. As far as life lessons go, that one is not too expensive. Here's a free one

7/7/15 10:56am

His criminal history has nothing to do with if you should pay him.

mudpupper

7/7/15 10:53am

You had an agreement with him. You need to keep your word.

annapcoug

7/7/15 10:55am

If he did a shoddy job, then make him do it right before paying him

donnerstag

7/7/15 10:55am

Is everyone that posted in this section a Lawyer?

thebruce

7/7/15 10:59am

No, but I've had illegals sue me before

NorthBayCoug

7/7/15 11:01am

right, just asking for a lawyers advice.

thebruce

7/7/15 11:04am

I am not a lawyer, but hey, at least I qualified that in my post.

Flippy

7/7/15 11:03am

I'm a lawyer, but I'm going to refrain from giving you advice. You seem like the

Non-donor troll

7/7/15 11:05am

good call

thebruce

7/7/15 11:05am

Either pay him or be ready to back up your claim that his work was not worth

ebv

7/7/15 11:06am

Did you know he was illegal when you hired him? Seems like he could get you

ol' Blue Eyes

7/7/15 11:10am

Yes, because illegal immigrants are always filing actions against people for

erodcoug

7/7/15 11:13am

What state do you live in?

NorthBayCoug

7/7/15 11:18am

I am Mexican-American from California Essay. I have worked with the Latino

erodcoug

7/7/15 2:59pm

you're a Mexican-American who can't spell 'ese?'

BYUCoug11

7/7/15 3:05pm

We spell it different in my barrio, we conform to the Oxford Spanglish

erodcoug

7/7/15 3:21pm

Doubling down!

ol' Blue Eyes

7/7/15 3:24pm

Yes "Essay"...don't be splainin in a long post on CB!

ol' Blue Eyes

7/7/15 3:11pm

If that's a long post, your ADHD is definitely more severe than mine.

erodcoug

7/7/15 3:22pm

haha...sorry...I just crack myself up sometimes!

ol' Blue Eyes

7/7/15 3:25pm

You're right

NorthBayCoug

7/7/15 6:17pm

Man, it's funny to me how generous all of these guys are with your money to

erodcoug

7/7/15 11:10am

Such advice assumes one thing

7/7/15 11:21am

Good point. The amount is too small to litigate

donnerstag

7/7/15 11:35am

update: I just worked out a settlement with him.

thebruce

7/7/15 11:39am

Great, that's the right thing to do and that is what I was trying to get at.

erodcoug

7/7/15 11:50am

Good job

Y2k

7/7/15 3:59pm

His status as an illegal immigrant is irrelevant

spinner

7/7/15 11:24am

Is he married to a man? That would effect how much I would pay him.

7/7/15 12:09pm

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