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Jul 29, 2015
9:30:30pm

Random Walk

Agreed. Fans need to donate more--not the Church.

I put partial blame on the Cougar Club for this, though... They don't do a good job of 1) promoting the product and 2) soliciting donations. Maybe it's because the Cougar Club is an official BYU organization. I think that it'd be better if it was independent of BYU...however...the Church would probably never go for that...

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Random Walk

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Why is everyone so frustrated with the BOT and the fact that they aren't

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:27pm

Agreed. Fans need to donate more--not the Church.

Random Walk

7/29/15 9:30pm

We've fallen into a vicious cycle

Harrison0Yfan

7/29/15 9:34pm

agreed

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:41pm

^^^This^^^

BYUHgrad

7/29/15 10:03pm

Gotten us into what current place?

7/29/15 10:15pm

IS THIS REAL?

7/30/15 12:50am

We really don't have that much money. We're somewhere between G5 and P5

Harrison0Yfan

7/30/15 9:03pm

Injuries got BYU to where it is. And not wining the lottery for me to where I am

cougarfann888

7/30/15 9:46pm

Not diminishing injuries. Just saying that we're not a rich school where sports

Harrison0Yfan

7/30/15 10:00pm

If the BOT has appropriated the program for missionary work, then they should

Josef K

7/29/15 9:35pm

Ok, I don't expect it to be a MAJOR missionary tool. Next...

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:44pm

Maybe you don't. They do

7/29/15 9:59pm

What program do you think provides the greatest ROI?

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:11pm

Fine don't donate. Then don't make it operate as a missionary program

7/29/15 10:15pm

It's not operating like the missionary program.

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:17pm

and if its not a church program or Missonary tool

kahuna

7/29/15 10:47pm

Why?

7/30/15 12:39am

the point was his wording. He acted like unless you fork out dough then it can't

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:29am

Maybe what you stated is exactly that. Who says they aren't fine with it being

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:48pm

Disagree. I think that the decision makers have better information than you

Random Walk

7/29/15 9:50pm

like a Billion dollar preppy mall

kahuna

7/29/15 10:53pm

You don't think that keeping downtown SLC viable is important to the Church?

Random Walk

7/29/15 11:05pm

It's odd that you think that the church needs to spend money downtown to help

CougDogg-e-Dogg

7/29/15 11:44pm

The Church will likely never "break even" on BYU football.

Random Walk

7/30/15 10:08am

It's safe to say you are fairly out of touch and uneducated on this topic.

CougDogg-e-Dogg

7/30/15 10:21am

Educate me.

Random Walk

7/30/15 12:41pm

if you can't see that BYU sports brings alot more to the table for the church

kahuna

7/30/15 12:15am

I think that BYU football does more than provide for entertainment, but

Random Walk

7/30/15 10:10am

Do you know anything about the finances of the project? Is it making or losing

Monomachos

7/29/15 11:48pm

I take it that you have never been to City Creek

7/30/15 12:38am

Not sure how you say the "BOT has appropriated the program for missionary work"

Real G Man

7/29/15 10:35pm

If BYU isn't a church program, drop the honor code.

Mathew

7/29/15 9:37pm

I would certainly support loosening it

Harrison0Yfan

7/29/15 9:48pm

At least let the team deal with it internally

7/29/15 10:00pm

Huh?

crazY

7/29/15 10:11pm

RE: If BYU isn't a church program, drop the honor code.

LVCougarFan

7/29/15 11:20pm

see post above yours

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:49am

it is really disappointing how few Cougar Club members we have.

BYUtka

7/29/15 9:39pm

Instead of joining CC they've probably been waiting to make a large

GastonCoug

7/29/15 9:42pm

Maybe we could replace Friends of Scouting w/ Friends of BYU Football

Ulysses14

7/30/15 8:29am

One last point. It isn't going to happen, so there is no point in whining about

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:41pm

Then we should be able to publicly fundraise for things like the basketball

concolor couguar

7/29/15 9:46pm

Thats a very good point

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:51pm

For sports in general yes but not for specific projects

concolor couguar

7/29/15 9:55pm

I agree with everything, but this:

Random Walk

7/29/15 9:56pm

When BYUTV starts closing up shop on Sundays along with KSL I will stop

concolor couguar

7/29/15 10:00pm

It will never happen. BYUtv and KSL are seen as public goods--BYU football is

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:14pm

I don't see the distinction television programs are absolutely luxury items

concolor couguar

7/29/15 10:16pm

I'd argue that tv/radio plays a pivotal role in communication.

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:17pm

Sunday night football and the premier of Granite flats are not pivotal to

concolor couguar

7/29/15 10:22pm

Sure, those programs aren't--but the medium is...

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:28pm

BYU Athletics in big games does that more so than granite flats

concolor couguar

7/29/15 10:31pm

Two questions.

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:41pm

Or lds.org streaming

concolor couguar

7/30/15 10:13am

AND the football program should keep $$ from parking and concessions

kotacoug

7/29/15 10:03pm

What $$ from parking?

7/29/15 10:39pm

the football program doesn't keep the money from concessions? geeze I didn't

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:34am

*$4 million. That is still a head scratcher.

Monomachos

7/30/15 10:06am

I haven't seen anyone voice that frustration.

kccougar

7/29/15 9:47pm

Here you go.

Random Walk

7/29/15 9:52pm

i was thinking of posts like this

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:37am

Well, we can now redirect our Friends of Scouting donations to Cougar Club!

zonacougar

7/29/15 9:49pm

So, still zero then

maxpowers

7/29/15 10:07pm

RE: So, still zero then

zonacougar

7/29/15 10:18pm

I don't think many people believe tithing funds should be used for BYU athletics

cougarfann888

7/29/15 9:58pm

How about the $10 million the Church contributed to UofU Law School?

Hinta

7/29/15 10:12pm

Like we need more lawyers...let alone yewt law grads that can't pass the bar.

zonacougar

7/29/15 10:27pm

and who can't find jobs after graduating

HarlemCoug

7/30/15 12:23am

toche'

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:40am

build in a .5% tax on all For Profit entities the church run and funnel it to

kotacoug

7/29/15 10:18pm

Not a big deal

Pops of Big Y Fan

7/29/15 10:19pm

The church dropped a billion on a mall...

SaintGeorgeYFan

7/29/15 10:41pm

The Church spends a lot of money keeping BYU

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:44pm

As they should... They own it after all. Where else would

SaintGeorgeYFan

7/29/15 10:53pm

They could if we moved our stadium right next to the temple and HQ

darkcoug

7/29/15 10:53pm

Haha. Good point!

SaintGeorgeYFan

7/29/15 10:56pm

what does BOT stand for?

LVCougarFan

7/29/15 11:18pm

Board of Trustees

holla at cha boi

7/29/15 11:26pm

Last name BOT. First name RO...nevermind

FILIKU

7/30/15 1:13am

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