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Jul 31, 2015
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byujacob
Everything I've read says that either the dentist is an idiot or he knew he was
bagging an animal he shouldn't have been.
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POLL: Should the lion-murdering dentist be extradited to Zimbabwe to face trial?
mobomanjoe
7/31/15 11:11am
Heck no. Countries run by dictators have no claim on anything.
SandYFan
7/31/15 11:13am
From what I read, the tag was legally issued, the hunt
PhilPete
7/31/15 11:17am
You and I must be reading different things. Did that come from the dentist's
CDV
7/31/15 11:20am
Everything I've read says that either the dentist is an idiot or he knew he was
byujacob
7/31/15 11:21am
If he paid $60k for a legal hunt, how is he supposed to know if it is illegal?
workindev
7/31/15 11:26am
Doesn't matter. He bears ultimate responsibility for his actions being legal or
UneducatedFan
7/31/15 11:32am
The tax preparer goes to jail. You are responsible for any penalties or tax
workindev
7/31/15 11:36am
I'm not talking about a preparer. I'm talking about someone giving you advice
UneducatedFan
7/31/15 11:44am
I'm more referring to this line from your link, which also in one form
UneducatedFan
7/31/15 11:50am
That doesn't seem analogous to this situation. The dentist didn't hire the
workindev
7/31/15 11:51am
Guides are there to lead the excursion
donnerstag
7/31/15 11:53am
Then your analogy may be more appropriate. Again having no knowledge
UneducatedFan
7/31/15 11:57am
Haha. Analogy fail
BYUCoug11
7/31/15 11:42am
I wasn't intending a tax preparer and that's my fault.
UneducatedFan
7/31/15 11:46am
The tag WAS legally issued, the hunt WAS legally set up
Wingnut
7/31/15 11:26am
It gets a little dicey in some of these areas
donnerstag
7/31/15 11:36am
Why?
mango
7/31/15 11:41am
Big cats are always "lured" in. Thats the way you hunt them.
PhilPete
7/31/15 12:07pm
Not illegal to bait animals in Zimbabwe.
thecthdox
7/31/15 12:13pm
This was also reported today on CNN. Plus a new fact, it is not illegal to
thecthdox
7/31/15 12:10pm
The real reason for extradition is he'll bring a throng of media with him
donnerstag
7/31/15 12:14pm
Fine him for what? If we allow extradiction based on retroactive laws then we
thecthdox
7/31/15 12:25pm
the attempted cover up says otherwise
mosterlow
7/31/15 11:28am
this ^^^
CDV
7/31/15 11:31am
I have seen much footage of the cat, pics and video. Not once did I see a
PhilPete
7/31/15 12:09pm
uh, the lion was baited out of the refuge with food by the guides ...
El Joffrey
7/31/15 11:37am
Which is why the guides are being prosecuted
workindev
7/31/15 11:40am
True but if he, the hunter, was aware of the illegallity as well (we don't know)
UneducatedFan
7/31/15 12:03pm
Agreed that he is accountable if he knew about it, but I don't think they need
workindev
7/31/15 12:37pm
I'm not up to date on the latest so you may be right.
UneducatedFan
7/31/15 1:13pm
I thought the prosecution resulted form the land owner, on whose land it was
PhilPete
7/31/15 12:20pm
Is that wrong? Illegal? Unethical?
mango
7/31/15 11:47am
when you are trying to move it from a reserve where you can't hunt....
El Joffrey
7/31/15 11:49am
See my response above...
mango
7/31/15 12:01pm
It was illegal to shoot the animal whether or not it was on the refuge.
El Joffrey
7/31/15 12:06pm
Link? First I've heard that.
mango
7/31/15 12:07pm
from what I read the fact that the lion had a gps collar meant it was not legal
El Joffrey
7/31/15 12:15pm
According to CNN today it is legal to shoot a collared animal in Zimbabwe.
thecthdox
7/31/15 12:26pm
ZZZZZZZZZZZ
PhilPete
7/31/15 12:57pm
In other words, you fail to see why people are upset over something that isn't
SoCalCoug
7/31/15 11:40am
I see why people are upset about it. But I also wonder about the priorities of
workindev
7/31/15 12:04pm
I see "outrage" and "upset" as two entirely different responses. FYI
PhilPete
7/31/15 12:18pm
Even when discussing issues I am MOST passionate about, I NEVER make death
PhilPete
7/31/15 12:52pm
Not if he won't be treated humanely or fairly.
byujacob
7/31/15 11:21am
Like that matters in the court of public opinion
BlueBlitzkrieg
7/31/15 11:27am
Zimbabwe would be foolish to punish the dentist
donnerstag
7/31/15 11:28am
Agreed. Given that all of the outrage is here rather than there, they have
workindev
7/31/15 11:32am
I bet the African safari dollars far out number the trophy hunting dollars
RC Vikings
7/31/15 11:44am
The counter argument is that there are 2,000 lions in Zimbabwe
donnerstag
7/31/15 11:51am
And hunting is an important aspect of conservation and promoting species
workindev
7/31/15 11:57am
Maybe we should cut down all the Redwoods and send everybody a piece so they
RC Vikings
7/31/15 1:20pm
False comparison. A redwood cannot be replaced by the next generation nearly
thecthdox
7/31/15 2:09pm
Such a lame analogy. Did you make that up yourself?
mango
7/31/15 3:03pm
Not a serious comparison.
workindev
7/31/15 3:19pm
YES. Since 2000 the US and Zimbabwe have had a bilateral extradition treaty
CDV
7/31/15 11:29am
Does it matter that he didn't break any laws?
bstod
7/31/15 8:33pm
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