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Jul 31, 2015
4:30:52pm

SouthernAZcoug

I think we are past the half-way point, perhaps far past, where independence can positive growth for BYU football.

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SouthernAZcoug

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If we're looked at as P5 by everyone except the BigXII then what's the big deal

byukarl

7/31/15 3:15pm

It's the fear of conference consolidation and BYU being left out in the future.

titlecoug

7/31/15 3:16pm

^AND THIS

ColonelMustard7

7/31/15 3:31pm

cause independence is lackluster and I want more for our bball team. I really

budYu

7/31/15 3:17pm

what are you willing to sacrifice?

warp

7/31/15 5:13pm

I understand that might be a roadblock for all of our sports but I am hoping

budYu

7/31/15 8:56pm

💸💸💸

YIsForBrigham

7/31/15 3:18pm

Well, let's see, there is the $ thing and then there is the weak home schedule.

tisdaplace

7/31/15 3:19pm

Counting towards a scheduling requirement is not the same as...

Cougar Insider

7/31/15 3:20pm

^THIS

ColonelMustard7

7/31/15 3:21pm

BYU should be able to challenge that access in court, now. Every conference sees

PGVikingDad

7/31/15 3:27pm

You realize they can just as easily say, "BYU does not count towards...

Cougar Insider

7/31/15 3:32pm

If there is another shake-up and we're left out in the cold, I'd be shocked if

PGVikingDad

7/31/15 3:59pm

Let's hope we just get in and don't have to find out.

Cougar Insider

7/31/15 4:04pm

The power conferences don't see us as equals.

Everymancoug

7/31/15 3:48pm

U realize that BYU and ND have virtually the same access right?

LEDSFW

7/31/15 8:14pm

No ite. ND has a contract with the Orange bowl that allows them

Everymancoug

8/1/15 9:56am

With the advent of the college playoff

travelcoug

8/1/15 10:05am

also because when in a conference you are guaranteed those good bowls if

ColonelMustard7

7/31/15 3:20pm

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Buffalo

7/31/15 3:23pm

yeah, they will schedule us...AT THEIR stadiums or 2 for 1's, plus we still do

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 3:25pm

Some valid reasons...but you think BYU would make the playoff if they have

Lance71

7/31/15 3:28pm

Wrong. Win the big12 championship with 1 loss and we are probably in. If the

YIsForBrigham

7/31/15 3:30pm

Yeah, ask TCU and Baylor about that.

Lance71

7/31/15 3:33pm

"Win the championship". TCU and Baylor didnt win a championship

YIsForBrigham

7/31/15 3:39pm

It's semantics. But, the BIG12 claims they both did win a BIG12 championship.

Lance71

7/31/15 3:47pm

But that championship didn't come through a 13th game.

Cougar Insider

7/31/15 3:54pm

Exactly and it's their fault for taking the easy road and getting left out.

scott715

7/31/15 7:51pm

Disagree completely. Even with 1 loss, in the BIG12 BYU could win the

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 3:42pm

Didn't 3 of the 4 playoff teams last year have one loss?

Cougar Insider

7/31/15 3:46pm

I just don't see a lot of these 2 for 1's I hear about

travelcoug

7/31/15 3:30pm

Holmoe and Bronco mention them all the time. You don't see them

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 3:43pm

wisconsin. Norte dame USC. That all I see

travelcoug

7/31/15 4:04pm

What is your point?

Kerbouchard

7/31/15 5:48pm

There are over 30 P5 schools we have agreements with. They are not 2-1

travelcoug

7/31/15 6:33pm

We still have 6-9 G5 opponents per year. That's a problem.

LiveCoug

7/31/15 3:26pm

The P5 games mostly have been good games and several G5 are top notch.

scott715

7/31/15 7:54pm

Bowl games, schedule, money, rivalries...pretty much several of the top things

UNLVcougar

7/31/15 3:26pm

Interesting home games. Especially in November.

Daedalus17

7/31/15 3:29pm

Several Reasons

thenewguy

7/31/15 3:34pm

When did the Big12 ever say we aren't p5 caliber?

Bostonblue

7/31/15 3:38pm

I think he meant Big 10?

kC Cougar

7/31/15 3:53pm

I think he just means the b12 hasn't officially said anything. But neither has

YIsForBrigham

7/31/15 3:59pm

$$$$$$$$$$$$$

PAman

7/31/15 3:40pm

Here is what we get by being P5 conf members rather than P5 recognized Indy:

Harrison0Yfan

7/31/15 3:54pm

Spot on. 100% agree.

BYUHgrad

7/31/15 5:29pm

^^^Yep.

byujdmba

7/31/15 6:29pm

The real issue is how BYU is viewed by the playoff selection committee

reddead

7/31/15 4:04pm

And, how often will BYU EVER be in the CFP discussion - conference or not?

boscatar

7/31/15 4:24pm

every time we are undefeated

travelcoug

7/31/15 4:31pm

I agree with points 1 and 2

reddead

7/31/15 5:36pm

We will never get into an NY6 bowl having more than one loss...

SouthernAZcoug

7/31/15 4:15pm

What a poor perspective.

Gentleman Stan

7/31/15 4:25pm

Perhaps, but it was never a long term solution with a diminishing rate of return

SouthernAZcoug

7/31/15 4:30pm

So, the first few years of Independence, without P5 recognition

Gentleman Stan

7/31/15 4:36pm

Those conferences are saying that BYU meets a minimum scheduling criteria

SouthernAZcoug

7/31/15 5:04pm

so so so so wrong. I don't even know where to start.

Bostonblue

7/31/15 5:07pm

Ugh. No, and your post doesn't make sense.

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