I agree with you that the Pac12 invitation was very fortunateness.

Because we are not bandwagon fans

mobomanjoe

10/4/15 8:13pm

*Because we aren't a bandwagon fanbase.

SD-Y-FAN

10/4/15 8:57pm

Because we are fans is the easy/obvious answer.

BengalCougar

10/4/15 8:13pm

bc unless you're in the playoff, who really cares about bowls?

Tortillero

10/4/15 8:14pm

I like seeing the team play every week.

SCcoug

10/4/15 8:14pm

Whether we win or lose? Bronco? Is that you?

Gerald-DeGroot

10/4/15 9:45pm

The 57K that showed up on Friday were cattle prodded into the stadium

cougarblue

10/4/15 8:15pm

What?

travelcoug

10/4/15 8:23pm

serious statement...you are the definition of little brother

coug10278

10/4/15 8:15pm

Wrong

JohnnyComeLately

10/4/15 8:15pm

Serious question.......why do you troll from your mother's basement?

Left Shark Coug

10/4/15 8:15pm

Obvious troll is obvious

bluebloodedcoug

10/4/15 8:16pm

So who did you cheer for before 2008?

bushy7

10/4/15 8:16pm

Ive been attending Utah games since the early 1990's.

sigepute

10/4/15 8:17pm

Then you should already know the answer to the question you asked.

BengalCougar

10/4/15 8:18pm

check and mate

swingcat

10/4/15 8:24pm

Thread should just end here

Flyski

10/4/15 9:03pm

you walked right into that one pute

palangi

10/4/15 9:31pm

BengalCougar just won the internet.

byujacob

10/4/15 9:35pm

most of the utah fans i ever talk to started right around 2004 or 2005

budYu

10/4/15 8:38pm

I like football.

JamesWestfall

10/4/15 8:16pm

You should pose this question to the 15K that sat in Rice Stadium

cougarblue

10/4/15 8:18pm

If BYU were 5-0 they might have those (nearly) same big options.

Spindash

10/4/15 8:18pm

I agree with you.

sigepute

10/4/15 8:19pm

When a team gets on a good roll, undefeated or one loss

Spindash

10/4/15 9:03pm

It is probably hard for one whose fandom

Cougarealist

10/4/15 8:19pm

Because its BYU football and there is still plenty that keeps my interest.

CougarsFanSince80s

10/4/15 8:19pm

I get that.

sigepute

10/4/15 8:20pm

If the teams positions were reversed, would you not care about yewtah anymore?

cougarnerd

10/4/15 8:20pm

FTW

coug10278

10/4/15 8:21pm

I would love the Utes. I would just be extremely frustrated that Independent

sigepute

10/4/15 8:22pm

Unless it is the playoff, why does the name of the bowl even matter?

JamesWestfall

10/4/15 8:27pm

I just like that each game still matters for Utah. Even if BYU loses to Wagner

sigepute

10/4/15 8:34pm

Each game matters for BYU, I think that's what you don't understand

cougarnerd

10/4/15 8:35pm

"Matters" vs "has an impact on post season play" is a different definition

sigepute

10/4/15 8:42pm

You are starting to change your words and grasp at straws

cougarnerd

10/4/15 8:57pm

That's like saying the conference doesn't matter. It could be the SEC or the WAC

Juice1219

10/4/15 8:37pm

It's not like saying a conference doesn't matter at all. That's a terrible

JamesWestfall

10/4/15 8:53pm

Is a bowl why you watch? Marketers have dreams about chumps like you.

Ragnar Danneskjold

10/4/15 8:21pm

Yup. I'll probably watch the Rose Bowl this year no matter who is playing

sigepute

10/4/15 8:51pm

College football is all about playing for consolation games

Remigius

10/4/15 8:22pm

But you can't tell me that you'd be as excited to watch the New Mexico bowl

sigepute

10/4/15 8:24pm

Fine, you talked me into it. Time to go back to the WAC and the Holiday every yr

Left Shark Coug

10/4/15 8:27pm

But don't you think you'd have a better path to a New Year's day bowl game if

sigepute

10/4/15 8:29pm

No, if we're being stupid, the WAC it is.

Left Shark Coug

10/4/15 8:32pm

It is really all the same to me

Remigius

10/4/15 8:37pm

This is a great point. Independence offers multiple bowl games essentially.

wisconsincougs

10/4/15 8:27pm

Wow. Very original. Did you come with thi all by yourself? Your parents must be

Texas Hammer

10/4/15 8:23pm

My parent love me very much. I assume yours love you as well.

sigepute

10/4/15 8:24pm

Yep, even when I make lame-yewt attempts to troll.

Texas Hammer

10/4/15 8:25pm

Not meaning to troll, just asking a question. Also I love Buc-ee's (your avatar)

sigepute

10/4/15 8:28pm

Ok. You got me. You mentioned bucees, so you definitely have to be a good guy.

Texas Hammer

10/4/15 8:49pm

Again, another thoughtful and honest response. Nicely done. I respect that.

sigepute

10/4/15 8:53pm

question back at ya: how did a ute fan survive the WAC and MWC?

ds7

10/4/15 8:25pm

But that's my point back in the MWC days there were still 4 or 5 different

sigepute

10/4/15 8:26pm

not for utah...they were going nowhere...

ds7

10/4/15 8:31pm

don't forget that we made a couple of Copper Bowls back in the day

sigepute

10/4/15 8:37pm

and beat some mid-level PAC team that didn't want to be there...

ds7

10/4/15 8:40pm

touche

sigepute

10/4/15 8:43pm

Wow. I'm a dumber person for having read that. Thanks

kansascougar

10/4/15 8:27pm

I highly doubt that is possible....

sigepute

10/4/15 8:38pm

Ultimately I just want to see my team play. Playing in an elite bowl would

ocmyhome

10/4/15 8:30pm

That was a thoughtful and well worded response without a personal attack. TY!

sigepute

10/4/15 8:32pm

Because the bowl is just one part of the season

Hoax

10/4/15 8:33pm

But don't tell me that you wouldn't kill to see BYU in the Rose Bowl??!!

sigepute

10/4/15 8:41pm

Been there, done that. Two weeks ago mate.

JohnnyComeLately

10/4/15 8:46pm

RE: But don't tell me that you wouldn't kill to see BYU in the Rose Bowl??!!

Hoax

10/4/15 8:50pm

Because this season is a gradual buildup to next season, when BYU will bring a

Rocketman

10/4/15 8:36pm

Should be a fun game. However I'm in the camp that thinks the rivalry is too

sigepute

10/4/15 8:39pm

so wrong...

ds7

10/4/15 8:45pm

well, the Utes are currently ranked #5 in the country so the evidence would

sigepute

10/4/15 8:47pm

well, where you're ranked 1st week in october doesn't matter one bit...

ds7

10/4/15 8:54pm

Youre right. It's still very early in the season. I don't think any true Ute fan

sigepute

10/4/15 8:58pm

The biggest sporting event (by far) in the state of Utah serves as great, great

Rocketman

10/4/15 8:46pm

But Utah was able to schedule Michigan this year instead of BYU...I think most

sigepute

10/4/15 8:49pm

Some U fans believe that, true. However, I believe your AD now understands how

Rocketman

10/4/15 8:51pm

I'll be honest. It sucks.

foofcoug

10/4/15 8:41pm

^^ This guy seems to get it ^^ Bravo for admitting this.

sigepute

10/4/15 8:44pm

If you spend any time on CB at all

bluebloodedcoug

10/4/15 8:51pm

While Foof is right... you were just trolling for this response?

Smoke Monster

10/5/15 9:05am

not really...it's been a lot of fun going to venues like notre dame, virginia,

ds7

10/4/15 8:49pm

I agree with that. Neither BYU or Utah deserve another road game in Laramie...

sigepute

10/4/15 8:56pm

I didn't say that the MWC was better.

foofcoug

10/4/15 8:57pm

Every team that has lost two games is in the same position

Remigius

10/4/15 8:50pm

There are a crapload more options for the postseason in a P5 conference.

foofcoug

10/4/15 8:58pm

foofcoug seems like my kind of guy!

sigepute

10/4/15 8:59pm

A yewt?

SD-Y-FAN

10/4/15 9:01pm

Just because I agree with some of what you have to say doesn't mean I like you

foofcoug

10/4/15 9:02pm

ok, we won't be friends... I just think you have an easier path to

sigepute

10/4/15 9:04pm

And that's where our opinions diverge. (PS - it's not the friends part)

foofcoug

10/4/15 9:07pm

I can appreciate your opinion on that. Sadly unless the Big12 comes calling,

sigepute

10/4/15 9:09pm

How kind of you to enlighten us on the situation.

swingcat

10/4/15 10:34pm

Right. But I think the point was that those are all consolation games

Westsider

10/4/15 9:01pm

Careful, foof doesn't connect the dots too well.

SD-Y-FAN

10/4/15 9:02pm

I connect the dots just fine. I just don't lie to myself to make myself feel

foofcoug

10/4/15 9:10pm

I don't disagree with that. But I doubt the players give up after a loss b/c

SD-Y-FAN

10/4/15 9:22pm

Check some of the player comments regarding the USU loss last year.

foofcoug

10/4/15 9:23pm

His question seems to be more about bowl options than about

JamesWestfall

10/4/15 9:06pm

I'd much rather have P5 postseason optionS than Independence option.

foofcoug

10/4/15 9:13pm

I don't think anyone is saying Indy options over Power 5

JohnnyComeLately

10/4/15 9:18pm

I think MWC over Indy is a better route for BYU

sigepute

10/4/15 9:20pm

The schedules they have now will get them into the playoff in a special season

JamesWestfall

10/4/15 9:22pm

But you still have to go virtually undefeated. If you join the MWC you simply

sigepute

10/4/15 9:25pm

The MWC is fine if NY6 is your goal. It's not the goal for my team.

JamesWestfall

10/4/15 9:31pm

If our goal was just to get an easier payout you are right

Remigius

10/4/15 10:56pm

We did the MWC, going back would be a mistake.

JohnnyComeLately

10/4/15 9:26pm

RE: I don't think anyone is saying Indy options over Power 5

foofcoug

10/4/15 9:21pm

That's not a serious question. Yet, one Yewt fans can answer given their program

Real Men Wear Blue

10/4/15 8:41pm

Wow. You guys got it made. Good thing the PAC 12 fell into your laps.

BluesBrother

10/4/15 8:43pm

I agree with you that the Pac12 invitation was very fortunateness.

sigepute

10/4/15 8:45pm

About like winning a $350M lottery - the U hit the mother load. In what other

Rocketman

10/4/15 8:49pm

social factors? Utah's invitation was driven by it's status a as a major

sigepute

10/4/15 9:00pm

That's cute you think that.

Ragnar Danneskjold

10/4/15 10:35pm

If not CFP/NY6, all other bowls are basically the NIT. Not that interesting

wisconsincougs

10/4/15 8:43pm

That is probably true. But I still prefer some level of intrigue with for

sigepute

10/4/15 8:50pm

You won't get an argument out of me. All the other guys in this thread can put

UNLVcougar

10/4/15 9:02pm

your rational perspective on a tough situation is refreshing

sigepute

10/4/15 9:06pm

You do realize that the only reason we aren't in the Pac 12 is bigotry right?

Still Open

10/4/15 9:04pm

One could argue that the ONLY reason that you're NOT is the same reason

sigepute

10/4/15 9:06pm

I hope the Pac 12 also excludes Catholics, Protestants, Latinos, African

Still Open

10/4/15 9:08pm

By your resounding logic, Utah shouldn't be allowed to have any Mormons on any

Still Open

10/4/15 9:11pm

That's not what i'm implying at all. All schools in the Pac12 are

sigepute

10/4/15 9:22pm

You might have written that.

Still Open

10/4/15 9:23pm

BYU may be an undergraduate institution, but you know that its academics are

Still Open

10/4/15 9:25pm

With three exceptions, bowl games are exhibition games. Never matter to me.

Jeremy

10/4/15 9:06pm

The Rose Bowl isn't EXACTLY an exhibition game my friend.

sigepute

10/4/15 9:08pm

utah isn't as good as arizona...and their fans have been saying that for

ds7

10/4/15 9:22pm

If it's not the CFP, it is absolutely an exhibition game. No other way around it

palangi

10/4/15 9:29pm

What is it? A really good exhibition game?

Jeremy

10/5/15 8:36am

a soccer "friendly"

palangi

10/5/15 9:09am

And its not for us?

KCRoyalcoug

10/5/15 11:56pm

You're not going to make the CFP or the Rose Bowl, so how do you

Kerbouchard

10/4/15 9:24pm

You very well might be right. But you're missing the point. We still have a

sigepute

10/4/15 9:28pm

Utah still has a chance because they haven't dropped 2 games like BYU has.

Spindash

10/4/15 9:36pm

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Spindash

10/4/15 9:35pm

Honest answer? Many of us don't. It sucks.

Gerald-DeGroot

10/4/15 9:45pm

If your senior QB goes down, you might be asking yourself the same question in a

dultso

10/5/15 12:19am

The "We win every game with Taysom" attitude feels old.

sheriffcreg

10/5/15 7:47pm

You think he is only referring to Taysom? He mentioned multiple injuries

cougarnerd

10/5/15 7:53pm

You're right.

Westsider

10/5/15 7:57pm

That's cause Jordan Wynn was pretty crappy by that point in his career.

Left Shark Coug

10/5/15 8:00pm

Oh and I can't believe you compared Wynn to Taysom, that's just wrong

cougarnerd

10/5/15 8:07pm

Wynn:Hays is comparable to Taysom:Mangum

sheriffcreg

10/6/15 7:41am

I see your point, and I agree.

Westsider

10/6/15 8:15am

Utah beat Michigan due to Treviso Wilson runs. I'm not saying BYU

JamesWestfall

10/5/15 8:08pm

^^^Compared Taysom to Jordan Wynn. lol

ChubbyChaser

10/5/15 11:08pm

Because a lot of us are interested in the football itself.

Belboz

10/5/15 9:00am

Are you aware that Utah played football prior to 2004?

RalphWiggam

10/5/15 10:51pm

This is why Ute fans really aren't Ute fans

Coug Dude

10/6/15 2:12pm

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