National Ranking is preferable to an MWC Championship.

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Oct 6, 2015
10:17:31pm

HighHorse

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HighHorse

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Problem is not the coaches

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:04pm

The nothing to play for excuse is lame.

blueaussie

10/6/15 10:08pm

So what's there to play for?

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:09pm

The same thing Notre Dame has to play for.

CMuehle

10/6/15 10:15pm

Wrong

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:26pm

What did ND have to play for until 1969 when

CMuehle

10/6/15 10:35pm

Yup. BYU is not ND. But BYU is comparable to the 1980s eastern independents.

SteveOrr

10/6/15 10:42pm

In answer to your first question

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:43pm

Football players play for the same reasons now that they did in

CMuehle

10/6/15 10:53pm

what did the cal win do for BYU?

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:01pm

You're making my point for me.

CMuehle

10/6/15 11:04pm

Think of their celebration if they had just won a conference championship

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:06pm

Then we should drop to FCS and be a perennial National Championship contender.

BarraCouga

10/6/15 11:14pm

If you're suggesting that they'd have big celebrations if they

CMuehle

10/6/15 11:14pm

Here is my question to you

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:25pm

First, the reason BYU is one of the few teams

CMuehle

10/6/15 11:43pm

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ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:27pm

National Ranking is preferable to an MWC Championship.

HighHorse

10/6/15 10:17pm

Problem with that argument is

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:23pm

Not a valid comparison.

PolarisPrime

10/6/15 11:50pm

last year we lost to 3 MWC teams.

HighHorse

10/7/15 6:03am

Competitive drive is stronger than any pointless conference championship

squirrelyearl

10/6/15 10:29pm

Well looked at it this way

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:34pm

How often are we ranked and how often to we go to a good bowl game?

OpusX

10/6/15 10:43pm

Not very often

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:49pm

Playing to win should be enough but I realize for many it is not.

blueaussie

10/6/15 10:30pm

You play to win the game. It's that simple. You play to win the game.

BarraCouga

10/6/15 10:36pm

so every school should just go independant if it's just about winning the game

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:54pm

That may be the worst logical leap in the history of Cougarboard. Quite a feat.

BarraCouga

10/6/15 10:59pm

but

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:03pm

Only if it's legit.

BarraCouga

10/6/15 11:08pm

It has worked well for Boise st.

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:14pm

We're not a truck driver school.

BarraCouga

10/6/15 11:19pm

I agree

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:30pm

So Texas should go to the MWC? Logic fall.

BarraCouga

10/6/15 11:37pm

funny thing

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:47pm

Boise is looking better right now than Texas. Texas should emasculate itself...

BarraCouga

10/7/15 1:20am

interestingly I remember thinking byu should go independent in the 80s/90s.

blueaussie

10/6/15 11:03pm

It's only enough in Fairyland. In the real world, it's meaningless.

P-townCoug

10/6/15 10:11pm

Utter bull-pucky.

CMuehle

10/6/15 10:16pm

Fantastic rebuttal.

P-townCoug

10/6/15 10:18pm

Every bit as thoughtful as the statement it rebuts.

CMuehle

10/6/15 10:35pm

not saying it is reality. Just saying it should be enough. I always play to win

blueaussie

10/6/15 10:33pm

Internal error message

Gerald-DeGroot

10/6/15 10:32pm

Haha. Unfortunately some need more motivation than just winning.

blueaussie

10/6/15 10:34pm

One other thing...

wilsdad

10/7/15 6:31am

I agree with that but

ibleedbyublue

10/7/15 7:09am

or maybe they aren't getting in to the nfl because they lack desire after one

blueaussie

10/7/15 9:21am

you must love preaseason NBA and NFL, too. right? MLB spring training! yay!

macaroni

10/7/15 8:04am

nope can't stand it but at least in those cases there is a greater purpose

blueaussie

10/9/15 11:30am

Although I do believe the coaching is suspect, I couldn't agree

P-townCoug

10/6/15 10:10pm

the arguments I've heard are 1- It's the only way to get into a P5 conference

franklyvulgar

10/6/15 10:13pm

I have heard the same thing problem is

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:20pm

BYU has said that Independence is not sustainable,my question is it P5 or bust

franklyvulgar

10/6/15 10:51pm

And we were one turf slip by Jurgens from being 4-1.

CougarThug

10/7/15 6:12am

Lavell was concerned about this when BYU went independent.

Cougar Junkie

10/6/15 10:16pm

so how does it work when you don't have a conference championship to play for?

palangi

10/7/15 1:14am

I agree. What I wonder is if Notre Dame fans feel the same way? Excepting 2013,

mikeynolikey

10/6/15 10:26pm

If playing for the love of the game isn't enough, I don't want you on my team.

SoCalCoug

10/6/15 10:30pm

Really? So why even keep score?

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:36pm

You play to win the game. Why assume the competition isn't part of the love

SoCalCoug

10/6/15 10:39pm

i agree, and playing to win championship is part of that

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 10:48pm

Then why don't teams just quit when they're eliminated from a championship?

SoCalCoug

10/6/15 10:59pm

i think they do. See Alabama vs Utah. I think Alabama packed that game in.

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:12pm

These arguments belong in Utopia.

P-townCoug

10/6/15 11:18pm

Well said

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:31pm

Sorry, but what tangible thing, exactly, does BYU get

CMuehle

10/7/15 12:01am

You're the only one who's brought up MWC.

P-townCoug

10/7/15 9:13am

Nice strategy.

CMuehle

10/9/15 10:48am

That's ok, he probably doesn't want Pollyanna on his.

mikeynolikey

10/7/15 9:06am

I don't like Independence either. But our coaches are below average.

Gerald-DeGroot

10/6/15 10:31pm

There are multiple problems. Independence is the biggest problem. Even ND is

Josef K

10/6/15 10:50pm

Academy. Navy is AAC

Colorado

10/6/15 10:56pm

Even Navy figured out they couldn't be independent.

Josef K

10/6/15 11:03pm

It's embarrassing. Not just that the players can't get motivated to

DH51

10/6/15 11:01pm

that was fun everyone. Thanks for the good discussion. I am off to bed, do it

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:18pm

Yeah, let's join the MWC and remove all doubt

Harrison0Yfan

10/6/15 11:26pm

Just curious

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:34pm

They could have 100 MWC trophies and I wouldn't trade.

BarraCouga

10/6/15 11:44pm

so you wouldn't take their BCS and NY6 bowl appearances

ibleedbyublue

10/6/15 11:48pm

Not at that cost.

BarraCouga

10/7/15 12:40am

Nah. I like BYU and hope they succeed in their own way

Harrison0Yfan

10/7/15 2:48pm

wa wa wa wa wa wa wa feel like I stuck in nursery.

bald man

10/7/15 6:18am

agreed....wonding if bleedblues parents know he's up.

digitalayon

10/7/15 9:38am

You know this year BYU has either the Hawaii or Las Vegas bowl possibility

BYUFam1

10/7/15 6:47am

I feel bad Ibleedblue that you had to take on these fellers all by yourself.

cowhide

10/7/15 8:27am

What you guys want just sounds so boring though

Harrison0Yfan

10/7/15 2:52pm

for the record, BYU would have beaten Oklahoma or Washington in 1984

mikeynolikey

10/7/15 10:02pm

RE: Problem is not the coaches

Cougsanity

10/7/15 9:04am

you're stuck in the wrong decade

warp

10/7/15 9:10am

way off

digitalayon

10/7/15 9:36am

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