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I could be wrong, but it sounds like a lot of negative recruiting taking place

whoneedscorners?

10/13/15 4:16pm

Sounds like the recruiting script of a certain school

10/13/15 4:17pm

Probably, yeah.

mantis mutu

10/13/15 4:17pm

Sounds more like he just doesn't want to have to worry about living the HC.

10/13/15 4:18pm

He was once a commit. He just up and decided he didn't want to live the

whoneedscorners?

10/13/15 4:19pm

RE: He was once a commit. He just up and decided he didn't want to live the

Opietheman

10/13/15 9:17pm

You serious Clark? English your second language? Go read his statement.

kansascougar

10/13/15 9:18pm

RE: You serious Clark? English your second language? Go read his statement.

Opietheman

10/13/15 9:37pm

You are terrible liar.

kansascougar

10/13/15 9:39pm

RE: You are terrible liar.

Opietheman

10/13/15 9:43pm

Make reading between the lines your 4th language and you'll understand

Ulysses14

10/14/15 11:23am

I'm sure it had to do with Utah, but

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 4:28pm

no surprise

acougfan

10/13/15 4:19pm

wow. I guess we can kiss this one goodbye. A lot of irony there with his comment

palangi

10/13/15 4:20pm

A kid that big not secure about his manhood to have someone question it?

mantis mutu

10/13/15 4:30pm

His loss

chestercougar

10/13/15 11:45pm

Sounds like he's been reading cougarboard.

Scratch

10/13/15 4:20pm

His comments sound very scripted

Seasider

10/13/15 4:20pm

He doesn't want someone to take away his opportunity to pay for his own mistakes

10/13/15 4:22pm

I'm sure that's not what Fred Jr., told him exactly...he just got confused.

kansascougar

10/13/15 4:27pm

It probably is exactly what he told him.

10/13/15 4:31pm

Fred Jr quoted him the 2nd Article of Faith and got it confused

icecougar

10/14/15 3:13pm

It means he doesn't want to pay for his mistakes.

Blue Print

10/13/15 7:55pm

This is correct

shatter2

10/14/15 4:18pm

So you sin (obviously; everyone does). I assume you believe that your sins will

Scratch

10/14/15 4:33pm

You are thinking that this board is a single person.

Blue Print

10/14/15 8:03pm

Wait, did you just compare going to BYU with baptism, temple marriage, temple

Scratch

10/15/15 10:40am

I was very careful.

Blue Print

10/15/15 11:32am

How about this. What higher law do these ordinances require? That is, what do

Scratch

10/15/15 11:49am

Because BYU represents the Church.

Blue Print

10/15/15 12:04pm

Scratch used red font so it's hard for Blue Print to trust his perspective

run26

10/15/15 12:06pm

Well we all know that "red" and "devil" go together.

Blue Print

10/15/15 12:09pm

I represent the church (it's part of my baptismal covenants). There are also

Scratch

10/15/15 12:24pm

Sure it is, but that's NOT what he said.

Blue Print

10/15/15 12:37pm

Yep, but a couple of things there.

Scratch

10/15/15 12:54pm

What environment does the Honor Code create?

WHO DEY

10/15/15 4:29pm

I agree, I know tons of BYU grads, including many of my close friends,

Scratch

10/15/15 4:39pm

I was there for two degrees, and never saw any tattle-taling

yahtzee

10/15/15 4:49pm

although i agree that the grooming standards are over the top

yahtzee

10/15/15 4:56pm

OK. Next?

Mister P

10/13/15 4:21pm

RE: I could be wrong, but it sounds like a lot of negative recruiting taking

flavordave

10/13/15 4:21pm

Sad the kid doesn't realize the honor code allows him to do all those things.

kansascougar

10/13/15 4:22pm

I interpret this as, "I plan on drinking and having sex and I don't want to

Duke Silver

10/13/15 4:24pm

I disagree. His attitude toward the honor code is shared by a lot of "worthy'

10/13/15 4:29pm

Seems completely disingenuous coming from the Whit clan

whoneedscorners?

10/13/15 4:33pm

Meanwhile... MSNBC reporting "lots of smart people like Hillary"

basc-coug

10/13/15 5:16pm

That's actually true

10/13/15 7:42pm

Man, if an LDS coach is saying that stuff, I feel sorry for them.

SPgoofyft

10/13/15 5:29pm

Except nobody has proof an lds coach said that.

10/13/15 5:34pm

I thought it was fairly common knowledge that KW uses negative recruiting...

Nut'n'2Say

10/13/15 6:23pm

I'm saying I don't know, and neither do you.

10/13/15 7:02pm

Typical ALUF denial

CosmosCuzzn

10/13/15 7:40pm

Denial? There is no evidence to support your claims

10/13/15 7:47pm

Unga said it in so many words, but that's not exactly evidence. just a matter

yahtzee

10/14/15 12:13am

has he given us any reason not to believe him?

icecougar

10/14/15 3:11pm

nope

yahtzee

10/15/15 11:37am

Wait wait wait. You're serious? Holy delusional. There's nothing true about that

SPgoofyft

10/13/15 8:31pm

Evidence?

10/14/15 3:29am

I'm not referring to whether it was a Utah or LDS coach. I talking about the

SPgoofyft

10/14/15 7:46am

LDS coaches at Utah certainly don't have a good track record:

icecougar

10/14/15 3:10pm

Except there's nothing true about what he said.

SPgoofyft

10/13/15 5:30pm

I choose to disagree with your disagreement! If you don't plan on having sex or

Bert609

10/13/15 5:54pm

I agree with you. that's exactly how I read it.

jayriggity

10/14/15 2:18pm

yes it is and i know a couple in my family

run26

10/13/15 6:21pm

In his statement, he talked about getting kicked off the football team because

Lance71

10/13/15 6:39pm

I agree. I, too, don't want someone making my choices for me

fierce16

10/14/15 2:30am

So you are saying "worthy" LDS people have trouble with the honor code

Cougarpride

10/14/15 8:51am

it's only a worry for people who have something to worry about...

icecougar

10/14/15 3:05pm

Good thing you don't have any idea

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 4:30pm

This is ignorant and we as members of the church should not find off that way

District

10/13/15 5:14pm

Of course it's ignorant. I know nothing about him, but hearing a statement like

Duke Silver

10/13/15 5:21pm

What a crock of BS. Just because he doesn't like the HC doesn't mean he wants

Singcat

10/13/15 7:43pm

Judgmental, yes. I'm doing it too. We're all just going off of this one comment,

jayriggity

10/14/15 2:24pm

RE: I interpret this as, "I plan on drinking and having sex and I don't want to

Opietheman

10/13/15 9:20pm

As if signing up to live a different standard of your own free will is somehow

CalGTR

10/13/15 4:26pm

Great post... I agree!!!!

BYU4eVeR

10/13/15 5:04pm

It's an excuse for

I'mBatman

10/13/15 4:33pm

Any guesses which member of the Ute staff fed him this line? Scalley is the

kansascougar

10/13/15 4:34pm

He can have a "BYU experience" at Utah

idacoug

10/13/15 6:57pm

they even baptize players in the locker room whirlpool bath

icecougar

10/14/15 3:16pm

Maybe he just wants to steal cell phones and have Sim Gill let him off

Copelius

10/13/15 4:35pm

B/c that is how it works in real life, you choose your punishme..Steve Sarkisian

YipiKiYa

10/13/15 4:35pm

You know it very well could have been an ex BYU player who spoke to him

Upanddown

10/13/15 4:35pm

Oddly enough, I kept the honor code and it was a pretty natural thing

Carnac el Magnifico

10/13/15 4:37pm

Well my BIL is an RM Japan

Upanddown

10/13/15 4:41pm

I put myself through school selling Beer cards, Laminator machine, bang,

MatthiasG

10/13/15 7:14pm

You really believe it's an ex BYU player that fed him that line?

Lance71

10/13/15 4:39pm

KW is an ex-BYU player...so, yeah. Sounds about right.

fulano

10/13/15 4:44pm

So is McMahon, Buck and Reno Mahe

Upanddown

10/13/15 5:38pm

How do you know it was the Ute staff for all we know he can be using the honor

Upanddown

10/13/15 4:53pm

LOL. Do you read your posts?

bluebloodedcoug

10/13/15 4:57pm

Sorry typing fast before football practice

Upanddown

10/13/15 5:34pm

Do they give out titles for 4th place in the PAC12 South now?

10/13/15 5:38pm

Maybe he would have mentioned any of those things if they were the reason.

Dillinger

10/14/15 11:56am

Yep-KW

byutx

10/13/15 6:25pm

He had no problem with the BYU Honor Code until Utah started recruiting him.

NewMexiCoug

10/13/15 8:14pm

Sounds like the attitude of a lot of us fans....

RaggaeCoug

10/13/15 4:43pm

Oh the naive views of adolescents. But how does the entire team pay for his

SoValleyCOUG

10/13/15 4:43pm

Kyle's been feeding that line to recruits for a while and its why Sitake has

darkcoug

10/13/15 4:44pm

For real?

kansascougar

10/13/15 4:49pm

Yes, and USU's staff has tried using it recently too

darkcoug

10/13/15 4:52pm

Interesting. Do you know Kalani personally?

kansascougar

10/13/15 4:54pm

Nope.

darkcoug

10/13/15 4:56pm

That's the biggest load of crap ever, and yes I know Sitake personally.

wcj99

10/13/15 7:06pm

Then you would know that he'should been trying to get out of Utah for years

darkcoug

10/13/15 9:57pm

Answer this for me....

wcj99

10/14/15 11:55am

I don't know, but I do know that you refuse to answer me, either because I

darkcoug

10/14/15 12:01pm

Let me help you out then

wcj99

10/14/15 12:25pm

I don't give a rats butt if sitake recruits that way

District

10/14/15 12:35pm

"I don't want someone to live my life for me." Is that a real quote? LOL

slappy

10/13/15 4:45pm

It is a real quote from the Utah coaching staff. Yes.

Lance71

10/13/15 5:05pm

"I want to pay for my mistakes. But not have consequences."

BGRTHNUMEGO

10/13/15 4:45pm

^^^The Correct Answer^^^

10/13/15 4:58pm

That's not what they taught me "Satan's plan" was.

Polecat

10/13/15 5:05pm

Satan's plan was no consequence for sin.

10/13/15 5:13pm

Satan's plan was to take away our power to choose, and not let us know good or

Polecat

10/13/15 5:49pm

It's like you never even read my post. So how about a quote.

10/13/15 6:27pm

That's nice... But "play now pay later" is not what Satan's plan was in the

Polecat

10/13/15 6:31pm

OK... I think I'll just stick with President Benson

10/13/15 6:44pm

We were talking about satan's plan in the preexistence, were we not? They

Polecat

10/13/15 9:09pm

Well - following recruiting may not be the best thing anyway.

10/13/15 10:25pm

Bottom line is you're implying this kid wants to choose "sin" and be exempt from

Polecat

10/13/15 6:36pm

What hair are you trying to split exactly?

10/13/15 6:57pm

hmmmm....sounds like you posted your opinion like it was fact...

icecougar

10/14/15 3:20pm

Like Harris??

Lawbronc

10/13/15 5:01pm

He's saying he wants his consequences to be unrelated to football, not that he

Polecat

10/13/15 5:07pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 4:55pm

He actually sounds pretty mature to me.

Polecat

10/13/15 5:09pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 5:55pm

To think things out, and decide what's best for yourself is pretty mature. He

Polecat

10/13/15 6:03pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 6:09pm

Yeah how about you stop making your own version of quotes.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 6:22pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 6:45pm

Don't try to defend your crap

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 6:51pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 6:53pm

I never actually called you crazy and you seem really fixated on that.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 7:22pm

You called him 'nuts'. You seem to have problems with people rephrasing.

10/13/15 7:24pm

Do either of you actually give a fart about the topic anymore

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 7:26pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 7:36pm

Again, nothing to talk about. Let me know when you're ready.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 7:44pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 7:48pm

RE: You resorted to a personal attack rather than provide a logical rebuttal.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 8:43pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 9:06pm

RE: Seems like you're reading just as much into his comments.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 9:30pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 9:35pm

So again with the off-topic diversion response? If that suits you I guess.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 9:41pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 9:54pm

I made a fool of myself? Yeah. lol Whatever helps you sleep.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 9:56pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 10:22pm

Stop being a baby, #1.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 10:31pm

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MMCougIII

10/13/15 10:23pm

Exhibit A for why a good LDS kid would say the heck with BYU

cajuncoug

10/13/15 9:34pm

Crap is going down on CB

Rygrif

10/13/15 9:31pm

How long until there isn't enough room for them to keep arguing

Rygrif

10/13/15 9:39pm

Should have just said I don't want to live the honor code. What a bunch of

Ironhide

10/13/15 4:55pm

Sounds like there are DEFINITELY not mission plans for this young man

CLCougar

10/13/15 5:00pm

Why don't he just say... I want to Party Hardy in College...

BYU4eVeR

10/13/15 5:01pm

I think anyone saying that Kirby is planning on messing up is out of line

bluebloodedcoug

10/13/15 5:04pm

Let him go elsewhere....tired of these high school kids thinking they are so....

WJCougar

10/13/15 5:06pm

Ah, the eternal struggle

bluebloodedcoug

10/13/15 5:12pm

I don't think he consciously wants to mess up

Cougarrrs

10/13/15 5:19pm

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riboflavin

10/13/15 5:26pm

Clearly not a good fit for BYU

youngster

10/13/15 5:21pm

translation: i want to drink and repent when i want to and also do whatever i

10/13/15 5:23pm

Possible negative recruiting, but I felt the same way when I transferred to BYU.

Sweetness

10/13/15 5:23pm

He should have just said that the honor code wasn't for him and left it at that

Bronoc

10/13/15 5:30pm

People have to justify choices they know are against their best interest

Cougarrrs

10/13/15 5:34pm

Another kid suckered by the bs that the Mormon in name only coach

pegushin

10/13/15 5:37pm

Wow, I don't know where to even start with this.

Scratch

10/13/15 5:41pm

I don't like the negative recruiting one bit...but I'm confident it has no...

Nut'n'2Say

10/13/15 6:33pm

That's utter nonsense and you have absolutely nothing

neboutefan

10/14/15 12:31pm

wish there was an option between thumbs up and down with the middle finger

pegushin

10/22/15 10:09am

Do you enjoy bearing false witness?

shakarocks

10/14/15 2:54pm

Look, BYU just suspended 2 guys for a game for being late. It IS very strict at

BYUfan92

10/13/15 5:41pm

No point in bringing up the first part once you have the "disclaimer"

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 5:47pm

The problem with your rant is that he didn't say that

donnerstag

10/13/15 6:29pm

RE: The problem with your rant is that he didn't say that

BYUfan92

10/13/15 6:46pm

It's not a far logical leap to conclude that he fears

donnerstag

10/13/15 6:52pm

Violation of team rules for similar offenses is pretty common at other schools

LV Coug

10/13/15 10:32pm

Didn't they get suspended for sneaking out of the hotel room the night before

CObluezone

10/14/15 6:19am

Excellent post. Those speculating about why he doesn't want to go to byu

District

10/15/15 9:36am

That's not a believeable story in the slightest by Napoleon

donnerstag

10/15/15 10:31am

Napoleon?

jo0520

10/22/15 11:51am

Pretty distorted take on the honor code.

10/13/15 5:46pm

BYU doesn't have Animal House, which is - frankly - a problem

LV Mike

10/13/15 5:49pm

Doesn't he realize at Utah they take away his right to make his own decisions...

Nut'n'2Say

10/13/15 6:02pm

This makes me sad. This kid needs better coaching.

HarlemCoug

10/13/15 6:20pm

Nothing wrong with what he said

SBJ

10/13/15 6:22pm

Sure, if he came up with that line of reasoning on his own.

whoneedscorners?

10/13/15 7:04pm

So he's dumb and immoral. Got it.

Scratch

10/13/15 7:49pm

No, he's a 17 year old kid

whoneedscorners?

10/13/15 8:41pm

LOL, this is the most comical statement I've heard in some time...

10/13/15 6:35pm

Valid question in hindsight

TNT

10/13/15 8:15pm

I would love to hear Utah fans defending Utah on this, especially ALUFs

byutx

10/13/15 6:40pm

There are Yewts on this board defending it! Probably even claim to Be LDS

RealityCheckedCougr

10/13/15 7:59pm

Whit did a fireside in South Jordan to help him with Bingham kids. It was in my

RealityCheckedCougr

10/13/15 8:00pm

Come at me, bro!

10/13/15 8:03pm

Defending what? We're still waiting for proof of the

neboutefan

10/14/15 12:33pm

Sounds like we dodged a bullet.

cougarmikey

10/13/15 8:00pm

TNT doesn't have a problem with this

TNT

10/13/15 8:06pm

Those comments make no sense.

NewMexiCoug

10/13/15 8:12pm

This is KW to a T.

LV Coug

10/13/15 10:31pm

Correct or not, it's hard to sway someone with that perception of it

Harrison0Yfan

10/13/15 10:44pm

Eerily reminds me of times when you committed someone for baptism only

oonga

10/14/15 12:57am

Someone needs to straighten him out...

Ymer Dunker

10/14/15 7:27am

I think there is a lot of confusion in his life especially with his dad dying.

jo0520

10/14/15 7:59am

I am sad a young man would deny himself the support and experience at BYU

Cougarpride

10/14/15 8:40am

I want to be held accountable for my own mistakes,

WHO DEY

10/14/15 8:52am

but not for Adam's transgression...

icecougar

10/14/15 3:23pm

The kid wants to party, plain and simple.

bleedsblue

10/14/15 9:52am

RE: I could be wrong, but it sounds like a lot of negative recruiting taking

JuanitaCougar

10/14/15 11:50am

agreed Signed Dominique Hatfield, Brian Blechen and Marquis Wilson

icecougar

10/14/15 2:34pm

sounds like BYU coaches should retaliate that Utah would spiritually corrupt...

icecougar

10/14/15 2:58pm

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