Jimmer's D early on was quite scrappy, it's true--but he had a problem

Feb 7, 2016
12:42:10pm

mantis mutu All-American

staying in front of people.

I think the Emery/Jimmer comparisons are unfair--largely cuz their games are pretty different.

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Jimmer got 18mins / game as a frosh. Emery is getting 30.

johnnycarson

2/7/16 12:06pm

Who do you think should be getting Nick's minutes?

rggee

2/7/16 12:11pm

Ben Murdock.

byubyu

2/7/16 12:12pm

Dunno. But hes not good enough yet to get that

johnnycarson

2/7/16 12:13pm

Good grief, he's a 4 star athlete. They start for good teams all the time

runnincoug

2/7/16 12:15pm

Who else offered him a schollie?

ToasterChive

2/7/16 12:59pm

He didn't have a ton of offers because he commited to BYU so early but the kid

ayfan

2/7/16 2:11pm

It's not Emery's fault he's forced into this role; blame lack of depth.

Tequila Mockingbird

2/7/16 12:18pm

I agree. That's the problem.

johnnycarson

2/7/16 12:19pm

Not really a comment on him. A comment on the team.

johnnycarson

2/7/16 12:21pm

Fair enough. Ignore my follow up comment then.

Tequila Mockingbird

2/7/16 12:23pm

So blame the coaches or the guys that transferred.

Tequila Mockingbird

2/7/16 12:22pm

This is true, we don't really have an option. I was hoping Chatman

Born2Fish

2/7/16 12:23pm

Exactly. Emery is our best option because we have no one else.

Tequila Mockingbird

2/7/16 12:28pm

Chapman = better defense, less mistakes but less offense. He should get more min

cougfromcali

2/7/16 1:31pm

Less mistakes??? I don't think so

davidnairn

2/7/16 1:44pm

He gets sat w/ every mistake. Emery jacks up shots that are equivalent of turn

cougfromcali

2/7/16 2:09pm

Some truth to this

Born2Fish

2/7/16 4:06pm

Because Rose's philosophy is offense first and then defense.

BBarton

2/7/16 4:50pm

I can agree with that.

davidnairn

2/7/16 6:56pm

1 steal in 199 min played is bizarre

blucoug18

2/7/16 2:01pm

He is NOT a better defender. Say what you will about Emery, but he is a good

currentbyustudent

2/7/16 4:01pm

Emery is a first class defender. Chapman is not better in that regard. I'd also

Beat_the_U

2/7/16 6:29pm

Chatman could be the new Ben Murdock

icecougar

2/7/16 10:13pm

This team is much, much younger that Jimmer's freshman team.

Vegas Katbacker

2/7/16 1:53pm

I think he is good enough. Shooting slump is all.

CougarBreath

2/7/16 7:12pm

Toolson leaving set the stage

blucoug18

2/7/16 1:58pm

crickets

kiyoshige

2/7/16 7:56pm

He's a 20 yo freshman, that hasn't learned

cougarfuzz

2/7/16 9:06pm

Chatman or Seljaas - He just needs to be yanked after his more boneheaded shots

cougfromcali

2/7/16 9:33pm

Nick is quicker & a better defender than a Frosh Jimmer.

mantis mutu

2/7/16 12:21pm

Little known fact: Jimmer had more steals than Jackson entering their JR season

SpiffCoug

2/7/16 12:36pm

Jimmer's D early on was quite scrappy, it's true--but he had a problem

mantis mutu

2/7/16 12:42pm

Nick is a better defender right now then Jimmer.

dodgersjazzcougs

2/7/16 3:46pm

Jimmer was 18. Emery is nearly 21. Jimmer accepted his role and didn't force it.

cougarfuzz

2/7/16 12:21pm

Jimmer was under utilized his first two years

Left Shark Coug

2/7/16 12:27pm

I remember watching him against Utah his Soph year...

IGlowInTheDark

2/7/16 12:37pm

who was it on SDSU his SO year that said it was impossible after he dropped 27

SpiffCoug

2/7/16 1:15pm

Lorenzo Wade iirc

concolor couguar

2/7/16 1:22pm

With Nick on the floor nobody is safe either.

Zaphod

2/7/16 12:38pm

I think Rose regrets not playing Jimmer more as a Frosh

Hinta

2/7/16 12:41pm

If that's a knock on Rose it's more valid for underplaying Jimmer than

ledfoot

2/7/16 12:41pm

Not much choice this year unless you would like to see some of his minutes go to

ledfoot

2/7/16 12:44pm

Chatman. He has had some pretty rough times as well. Doesn't mean...

ledfoot

2/7/16 12:47pm

Jimmer was the last freshman he tried to bring along slowly

Remigius

2/7/16 4:16pm

These decisions aren't made in a vacuum

wapiti

2/7/16 1:11pm

Elephant in the room here is that Emery wants to be Jimmer.

cougarfuzz

2/7/16 1:31pm

There needs to more accountability for Emery's selfish play.

cougfromcali

2/7/16 1:33pm

Hopefully that changes when

davidnairn

2/7/16 1:46pm

That's seriously his excuse? C'mon, that's pathetic.

cougfromcali

2/7/16 2:10pm

that's on coaching as much as the kid

blucoug18

2/7/16 2:10pm

Beo didn't turn down an offer from UW, thats a myth.

cougarnw

2/7/16 3:13pm

some say it will help him next year, other says it will hurt him

capo

2/7/16 3:19pm

We really need a guy who can create a shot, though. KC's good--

mantis mutu

2/7/16 6:38pm

I don't. Nick should play his game, not Jimmers.

BostonCougar

2/7/16 2:25pm

Make sense that he has probably hit "the wall". No legs in his jump shot lately.

TheLoneCougar

2/7/16 8:38pm

This is a good thing. This team isn't going anywhere most likely.

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