Maybe you should start the thread with some. You posted an opinion article that throws

Feb 12, 2016
10:24:31pm

Byron McNertney Solid 7 (9 if you're drunk)

out some pretty big numbers without citation. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. It seems you could find a better source than a 4 year old oped if one entity is indeed causing 1/3 of all pollution in SL County.

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Rio Tinto causes nearly 1/3rd of all of the pollution in Salt Lake County. We should force them out of business. Link

HarlemCoug Contributor

2/12/16 9:43pm

And we should all stop driving as that contributes about 60% of the air

basman

2/12/16 9:49pm

One company causes about 30% of all of the pollution - putting them out of business wouldn't cripple the economy. But

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 9:51pm

Dont believe the garbage you read on the internet. The EPA contols this stuff.

Dwood

2/13/16 12:24am

In Utah the main driver of smog is our elevation

BYU '80

2/12/16 11:59pm

LOL, pretty sure they reported Rio Tinto's quarterly earnings this morning

Cachanilla83

2/12/16 9:55pm

In Utah there are

I'mBatman

2/13/16 8:00am

How about we just slow them down when inversion hits.

BW84

2/12/16 9:56pm

seems like a reasonable compromise...

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:08pm

Since most of us don't deal with Rio Tinto, how do you suggest that we put them

crazY

2/12/16 10:00pm

Utahans should pass legislation that requires all industrial companies in the valley to limit their pollution to a

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:08pm

That would shut down more than just Rio Tinto.

crazY

2/12/16 10:17pm

even better - doesn't make sense to have high pollution companies near city centers.

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:22pm

The cities build around the industry. Then we get so smart we demand the

Cougarrrs

2/12/16 10:38pm

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 10:39pm

The EPA already has those. No need for UTAH to double dip. learn first!

Dwood

2/13/16 12:23am

IF you want I can PM you the phone number for the head of enviromental control

Dwood

2/13/16 12:38am

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 10:46pm

Probably in cahoots with Krakatoa and the meteor that killed the dinosaurs.

Cachanilla83

2/12/16 10:54pm

If you explain to people that global warming and inversion are two separate

Cabadapeste

2/12/16 10:01pm

Sweet. TNT has a new personal attack. You're a Rio Tinto!

TNT

2/12/16 10:04pm

Rio TiNTo?

Crowgar

2/12/16 10:11pm

You've uncovered the conspiracy!

BeardedSpock

2/13/16 9:28am

I guess cougarlover83 is pro-pollution. I'm going to guess he (nor his kids) have asthma yet.

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:09pm

Maybe he just doesn't rely on oped pieces written by political activists as gospel truth.

Byron McNertney

2/12/16 10:12pm

maybe be should respond with evidence

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:15pm

Maybe you should start the thread with some. You posted an opinion article that throws

Byron McNertney

2/12/16 10:24pm

link

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:36pm

and another link

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:37pm

and another

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:37pm

All three of your posts are opinion pieces. Look at the infographic from

crazY

2/12/16 10:44pm

Facts:

crazY

2/12/16 10:40pm

I'm suggesting the same solutions you're link suggests. Why push back against me but link to this?

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:50pm

Because your statistics are false.

crazY

2/12/16 10:51pm

your link is unpersuasive. it fails to identify how much of the pollution is from Rio Tinto and leaves open the

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:08pm

"Utah regularly has the worst air in the country." That's incorrect

crazY

2/12/16 11:21pm

again - your link is unpersuasive. It shows SLC as 7th worst in one of the categories and shows nothing

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:31pm

His evidence is more persuasive than your claim

mobius

2/12/16 11:49pm

then you fail to understand what the term "regularly" means

HarlemCoug

2/13/16 12:02am

You failed to notice that he provided at least some evidence to backup his

mobius

2/13/16 12:17am

Your use of the term "regularly" is very arbitrary.

crazY

2/13/16 12:27am

I bet he is probably pro-copper piping and really enjoys the quality of life

Cachanilla83

2/12/16 10:28pm

Move to a city for jobs. Demand those job providers not pollute.

Cougarrrs

2/12/16 10:24pm

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:34pm

Or how about those of you that are sensitive to it, stay indoors?

Cougarrrs

2/12/16 10:39pm

that's your solution to pollution in a city? have the populous stay inside?

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:09pm

Kennicott does not cause the inversions. Shutting them down is only going to

Dwood

2/13/16 12:30am

My solution is that those who have a problem should remove themselves from the

Cougarrrs

2/13/16 7:53am

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 10:34pm

Nope, but I have been to Daybreak twice. The mutifamily there couldn't be uglier

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:42pm

I am starting to see this very ugly multifamily all over salt lake. Why so much

ToasterChive

2/12/16 11:19pm

As you argue about air quality this is what we have in Half moon bay.

jholling

2/12/16 10:40pm

Better solution, wear a particulate mask if it bothers you so much.

Cougarrrs

2/12/16 10:42pm

your statements seems so strange to me. it seems as though you're supporting people who pollute your air. Why would

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:48pm

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 10:53pm

Do you drive?

mobius

2/12/16 11:18pm

I'm certain I've taken public transport more often than 99% of the people on this board and I'd imagine that no one

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:38pm

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 11:45pm

IOW you drive and pollute the air too

mobius

2/12/16 11:57pm

If you're that concerned no one is stopping you from wearing a particulate mask

Cougarrrs

2/13/16 7:44am

Funny, I just read an article that said point sources were around %20, of

Bluedarts

2/12/16 10:52pm

seems the data I linked aren't true, but no one seems to dispute that RTK is a major contributor to the pollution in SLC

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:12pm

On an industrial level they are proabably the biggest poluter in SLC. BUT they

Dwood

2/13/16 12:35am

Just browsed through the comments section of the article, hahaha...

cougarBee

2/13/16 12:03am

Utahns are not generally concerned about it. I see Mother's out and about

Cougarfan777

2/13/16 12:14am

They are good Republicans so they can't care.

Cabadapeste

2/13/16 7:25am

Rio Tinto is one of my clients. The article was written by a couple of hacks

Dwood

2/13/16 12:22am

Rio tinto pollution is mostly dust.

Blue Ghost

2/13/16 6:34am

And dust isn't really pollution. It is a naturally occurring environmental factor.

Turnpike Lane

2/13/16 7:53am

Ladies and Gentlemen, we interrupt this debate with the following important fact

OldCosmo

2/13/16 8:46am

It's the Wasatch Range's fault, just knock them

DrBYU

2/13/16 8:43am

Hack and only one line below

DrBYU

2/13/16 8:46am

right. the stuff in between the mountains doesn't have a measurable effect.

NanoFab Coug

2/13/16 8:52am

To a degree, that is correct.

crazY

2/13/16 10:29am

People are convinced that the fog is 90% pollution.

Cougarrrs

2/13/16 10:43am

A good rule of thumb is to never believe anything you read in the Trib

BeardedSpock

2/13/16 9:26am

Even worse, this is a Trib piece written by two Sierra Club hacks. Yikes.

Bluedarts

2/13/16 8:51pm

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