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Feb 12, 2016
11:57:12pm

mobius Playmaker

IOW you drive and pollute the air too

i understand what you are getting at and I do think there is more that can be done, but the hyperbole and exaggeration in this thread isn't going to convince people. Nobody wants to breathe bad air, but decisions need to be based on fact. So far you have provided a lot of made up statistics: 33% this, 99% that, regularly worst, etc.

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mobius

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Rio Tinto causes nearly 1/3rd of all of the pollution in Salt Lake County. We should force them out of business. Link

HarlemCoug Contributor

2/12/16 9:43pm

And we should all stop driving as that contributes about 60% of the air

basman

2/12/16 9:49pm

One company causes about 30% of all of the pollution - putting them out of business wouldn't cripple the economy. But

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 9:51pm

Dont believe the garbage you read on the internet. The EPA contols this stuff.

Dwood

2/13/16 12:24am

In Utah the main driver of smog is our elevation

BYU '80

2/12/16 11:59pm

LOL, pretty sure they reported Rio Tinto's quarterly earnings this morning

2/12/16 9:55pm

In Utah there are

I'mBatman

2/13/16 8:00am

How about we just slow them down when inversion hits.

BW84

2/12/16 9:56pm

seems like a reasonable compromise...

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:08pm

Since most of us don't deal with Rio Tinto, how do you suggest that we put them

crazY

2/12/16 10:00pm

Utahans should pass legislation that requires all industrial companies in the valley to limit their pollution to a

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:08pm

That would shut down more than just Rio Tinto.

crazY

2/12/16 10:17pm

even better - doesn't make sense to have high pollution companies near city centers.

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:22pm

The cities build around the industry. Then we get so smart we demand the

Cougarrrs

2/12/16 10:38pm

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 10:39pm

The EPA already has those. No need for UTAH to double dip. learn first!

Dwood

2/13/16 12:23am

IF you want I can PM you the phone number for the head of enviromental control

Dwood

2/13/16 12:38am

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 10:46pm

Probably in cahoots with Krakatoa and the meteor that killed the dinosaurs.

2/12/16 10:54pm

If you explain to people that global warming and inversion are two separate

Cabadapeste

2/12/16 10:01pm

Sweet. TNT has a new personal attack. You're a Rio Tinto!

TNT

2/12/16 10:04pm

Rio TiNTo?

Crowgar

2/12/16 10:11pm

You've uncovered the conspiracy!

BeardedSpock

2/13/16 9:28am

I guess cougarlover83 is pro-pollution. I'm going to guess he (nor his kids) have asthma yet.

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:09pm

Maybe he just doesn't rely on oped pieces written by political activists as gospel truth.

Byron McNertney

2/12/16 10:12pm

maybe be should respond with evidence

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:15pm

Maybe you should start the thread with some. You posted an opinion article that throws

Byron McNertney

2/12/16 10:24pm

link

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:36pm

and another link

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:37pm

and another

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:37pm

All three of your posts are opinion pieces. Look at the infographic from

crazY

2/12/16 10:44pm

Facts:

crazY

2/12/16 10:40pm

I'm suggesting the same solutions you're link suggests. Why push back against me but link to this?

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:50pm

Because your statistics are false.

crazY

2/12/16 10:51pm

your link is unpersuasive. it fails to identify how much of the pollution is from Rio Tinto and leaves open the

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:08pm

"Utah regularly has the worst air in the country." That's incorrect

crazY

2/12/16 11:21pm

again - your link is unpersuasive. It shows SLC as 7th worst in one of the categories and shows nothing

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:31pm

His evidence is more persuasive than your claim

mobius

2/12/16 11:49pm

then you fail to understand what the term "regularly" means

HarlemCoug

2/13/16 12:02am

You failed to notice that he provided at least some evidence to backup his

mobius

2/13/16 12:17am

Your use of the term "regularly" is very arbitrary.

crazY

2/13/16 12:27am

I bet he is probably pro-copper piping and really enjoys the quality of life

2/12/16 10:28pm

Move to a city for jobs. Demand those job providers not pollute.

Cougarrrs

2/12/16 10:24pm

as suggested earlier perhaps best just to have them shut down during inversions...

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:34pm

Or how about those of you that are sensitive to it, stay indoors?

Cougarrrs

2/12/16 10:39pm

that's your solution to pollution in a city? have the populous stay inside?

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:09pm

Kennicott does not cause the inversions. Shutting them down is only going to

Dwood

2/13/16 12:30am

My solution is that those who have a problem should remove themselves from the

Cougarrrs

2/13/16 7:53am

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 10:34pm

Nope, but I have been to Daybreak twice. The mutifamily there couldn't be uglier

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:42pm

I am starting to see this very ugly multifamily all over salt lake. Why so much

2/12/16 11:19pm

As you argue about air quality this is what we have in Half moon bay.

jholling

2/12/16 10:40pm

Better solution, wear a particulate mask if it bothers you so much.

Cougarrrs

2/12/16 10:42pm

your statements seems so strange to me. it seems as though you're supporting people who pollute your air. Why would

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 10:48pm

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 10:53pm

Do you drive?

mobius

2/12/16 11:18pm

I'm certain I've taken public transport more often than 99% of the people on this board and I'd imagine that no one

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:38pm

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MMCougIII

2/12/16 11:45pm

IOW you drive and pollute the air too

mobius

2/12/16 11:57pm

If you're that concerned no one is stopping you from wearing a particulate mask

Cougarrrs

2/13/16 7:44am

Funny, I just read an article that said point sources were around %20, of

Bluedarts

2/12/16 10:52pm

seems the data I linked aren't true, but no one seems to dispute that RTK is a major contributor to the pollution in SLC

HarlemCoug

2/12/16 11:12pm

On an industrial level they are proabably the biggest poluter in SLC. BUT they

Dwood

2/13/16 12:35am

Just browsed through the comments section of the article, hahaha...

cougarBee

2/13/16 12:03am

Utahns are not generally concerned about it. I see Mother's out and about

Cougarfan777

2/13/16 12:14am

They are good Republicans so they can't care.

Cabadapeste

2/13/16 7:25am

Rio Tinto is one of my clients. The article was written by a couple of hacks

Dwood

2/13/16 12:22am

Rio tinto pollution is mostly dust.

Blue Ghost

2/13/16 6:34am

And dust isn't really pollution. It is a naturally occurring environmental factor.

2/13/16 7:53am

Ladies and Gentlemen, we interrupt this debate with the following important fact

OldCosmo

2/13/16 8:46am

It's the Wasatch Range's fault, just knock them

DrBYU

2/13/16 8:43am

Hack and only one line below

DrBYU

2/13/16 8:46am

right. the stuff in between the mountains doesn't have a measurable effect.

2/13/16 8:52am

To a degree, that is correct.

crazY

2/13/16 10:29am

People are convinced that the fog is 90% pollution.

Cougarrrs

2/13/16 10:43am

A good rule of thumb is to never believe anything you read in the Trib

BeardedSpock

2/13/16 9:26am

Even worse, this is a Trib piece written by two Sierra Club hacks. Yikes.

Bluedarts

2/13/16 8:51pm

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