seasons BYU has been having, doesn't have any value. I get how difficult it is to consistently win 20+, and maybe it's even taken for granted because it's literally been the norm for BYU fans. But when there's nothing to really add to it, it's not all that great of a talking point. I'm kind of shocked at how people on here talk up these seasons. Not saying you are, just in general. Just saying a 15 win season or a 20 win season... Doesn't matter if there's nothing accomplished at the end other than that. It's been the same old thing in the WCC. Shoot even in the MCW there was no conference title. It would just be nice for a few things to happen, like some post-season success. I don't think they'll ever reach their potential with this staff, but they need to start making something happen.