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Jun 26, 2017
4:50:25pm

gwalker All-American

It's awfully easy to turn your argument around. I think you guys are

underestimating the glitches and potential to be hacked that already exists. Hackers will only multiply as the use of driverless technology becomes widespread. Every new technology has a serious glitch phase until the bugs get worked out. And that's without including malicious interference like hacking. I could say it's manslaughter to ignore those issues. I'd bet a substantial sum that accidents will increase for a good while after the technology becomes dominant.

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Picture a time when a foreign power won't bother trying to hack our elections. They can just wage war on us by hacking our cars.

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I don't even use cruise control because it makes me feel like I'm not in control

gwalker

6/26/17 4:19pm

They'll be virus free, run on GPS tech only.

6/26/17 4:20pm

Is there any such thing as "virus free" when computers are involved? If I'm

gwalker

6/26/17 4:21pm

GPS is nowhere near accurate enough for self driving cars

cheezedawg

6/26/17 4:21pm

Pair GPS with inertia sensors and you can be accurate to inches.

6/26/17 4:50pm

10 feet is the difference of driving on the road or on the sidewalk

cheezedawg

6/26/17 5:09pm

GPS tech + cameras + proximity sensors will do the trick.

Spine

6/26/17 6:47pm

Yeah- you need to combine gps with other localization techniques

cheezedawg

6/26/17 6:59pm

I would think GPS III would be ready by then and should improve accuracy

supertux

6/27/17 6:18am

the feeling of driving with cruise control is very different from the feeling of driving with adaptive cruise control. I

HarlemCoug

6/26/17 4:20pm

If you knew how much important stuff was already run entirely by computers,

SandYFan

6/26/17 4:20pm

Maybe, but I've been driving for over 30 years and I've been involved in one

gwalker

6/26/17 4:23pm

You are an outlier. Humans suck at driving.

SandYFan

6/26/17 4:24pm

I always leave extra space with the car in front of me.

JayCoug

6/26/17 4:26pm

So you're that dude we encounter on road trips that we pass over and over again while we maintain the same speed because

Slim

6/26/17 4:21pm

That was exactly my thought. People who don't use cruise control on the freeway

Schultz is back

6/26/17 4:29pm

There's a great quote about driverless cars, "they don't have to be perfect,

jaredm

6/26/17 4:23pm

The incidence of accidents while using driverless technology is already lower

SpecialT

6/26/17 4:24pm

Can it at least have a "driver's ed car" type override built in so the driver

gwalker

6/26/17 4:25pm

How old are you?

SandYFan

6/26/17 4:26pm

Mid to late 40s.

gwalker

6/26/17 4:26pm

47.5?

coolcats

6/26/17 4:29pm

I have control issues. I much prefer to run outside to running on a treadmill,

gwalker

6/26/17 4:29pm

I could see that causing a lot of accidents

Sea Chicken

6/26/17 4:32pm

you underestimate how terrible humans are at driving

Dissenter

6/26/17 4:41pm

It's awfully easy to turn your argument around. I think you guys are

gwalker

6/26/17 4:50pm

Plus, because a computer requires less reaction time, distance between vehicles

SpecialT

6/26/17 4:26pm

doesn't increasing speed actually cost more to run a vehicle. Slower and steady

Nat Gas Man

6/26/17 4:47pm

Correct-ish. In a vacuum of only one car you are correct. However, by going

Spine

6/26/17 6:55pm

I'm not sure this is actually true

boyblue

6/26/17 4:42pm

Anecdotal, but watch this:

SpecialT

6/26/17 4:50pm

Amazing video. Computers are so much better at this than we are.

SandYFan

6/26/17 4:52pm

If they actually were, they'd be widespread right now

boyblue

6/26/17 5:39pm

More anecdotal video

boyblue

6/26/17 4:58pm

Man, that moron that tried to exit late would've killed someone

6/26/17 5:04pm

The boar at the end would have been an accident for sure

Spine

6/26/17 6:58pm

So you're the guy who passes me, then gets passed, then passes again,

6/26/17 4:29pm

Dang, Slim beat me to it. Obviously a legit point.

6/26/17 4:30pm

I don't do much leapfrogging on long trips. Part of my control issues include

gwalker

6/26/17 4:32pm

Or just use the accelerate and decelerate buttons on cruise control

Baron

6/26/17 4:36pm

That involves not paying attention and then paying attention and then not paying

gwalker

6/26/17 4:37pm

When would you not be paying attention? I don't see

Baron

6/26/17 4:38pm

That sounds stressful and awful.

6/26/17 4:37pm

I use it all the time. It's saved my many speeding tickets.

HighHorse

6/26/17 5:03pm

I use it a ton now that I have a car where I can adjust the speed up and down

6/26/17 5:07pm

You're the guy who thinks math is more accurate with pencil/paper than w/Excel.

6/26/17 5:15pm

Nope. I'm not anti-technology. Excel doesn't do anything I don't tell it to do.

gwalker

6/26/17 5:31pm

Not a user of macros I see ... j/k gwalker. I think you will be able to keep

Spine

6/26/17 7:04pm

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