The players I played with and coached didn't feel the way you expect. There

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Oct 11, 2017
11:50:47pm

Turbine All-American

Is a reason so many former players and coaches have spoke against Independence.

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Turbine

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Drage, my man, absolutely not. #NeverMWC

LaVellIfIKnow

10/11/17 7:41pm

What if you lose 2? What are you playing for when you are basically out of the

cougaman

10/11/17 7:43pm

Have you ever coached?

Turbine

10/11/17 7:51pm

Curious why thats even relevant? Do coaches say "well, we aren't in a conference

cougaman

10/11/17 9:23pm

It is pretty relevant. College kids don’t just get amped for

cougtrain

10/11/17 10:10pm

Exactly. We are at a big disadvantage and its our own fault.

Turbine

10/11/17 10:50pm

I'm not buying it. I acknowledged that some games will have a little extra

cougaman

10/11/17 11:19pm

The players I played with and coached didn't feel the way you expect. There

Turbine

10/11/17 11:50pm

"College kids don’t just get amped for every game" - they do for LSU, MSU, Wisc,

MormonThug

10/12/17 5:34am

It's clear there are many many pro conference fans, players, etc.

Joe Hardy

10/12/17 8:57am

This is, without a doubt, the most absurd post I've ever seen on CB

Dissenter

10/12/17 11:20am

Umm nope. This has plenty of logic in it.

Joe Hardy

10/12/17 4:24pm

Actually there's a lot of truth to it

shakarocks

10/12/17 4:41pm

You don't think players are excited? That's idiotic

Dissenter

10/12/17 7:12pm

After Wisconsin, the players knew the season was over. I would

Joe Hardy

10/12/17 8:37pm

Players are going to play

shakarocks

10/12/17 10:26pm

No truth in this. What team is out of the conference race at 0-2? With 7-8 left

Cougarfan777

10/11/17 8:08pm

However many games it is, I don't care. You should be motivated enough to play

cougaman

10/11/17 8:34pm

Helping other teams in the conference is motivation? LOL

wapiti

10/11/17 11:33pm

Drage = cougarfan777?

84 Grad

10/11/17 7:43pm

The funny thing about this is that outside of Detmer, Drage is my top Cougar

Cougarfan777

10/11/17 8:05pm

Narcissist

84 Grad

10/11/17 8:15pm

Not just drage. The majority of former players want us to go back.

Backcountry

10/11/17 7:59pm

Vocal minority. Just like here on CB.

Refugee

10/11/17 8:47pm

I'm going off the guys criddle interviews. I don't think it's a vocal minority.

Backcountry

10/11/17 8:47pm

It sounds pretty common for the former players to say they want back in a

cougtrain

10/11/17 8:52pm

It's time to go back.

Buck99

10/11/17 9:41pm

Haha, what does Drage know? He’s only one of the best WRs to play at BYU

Run-DMT

10/11/17 7:59pm

CB knows more than majority of former players, coaches and ADs. Didn't you know?

Turbine

10/11/17 8:04pm

Exactly. What does he know about running an AD and those realities?

Turnpike Lane

10/11/17 8:48pm

I'm totally with Drage. I'd prefer AAC but MWC will do. BYU gave Indy a good

CB4

10/11/17 8:03pm

I was excited for Indy too. I had hope that it would let us negotiate p5

cougtrain

10/11/17 9:11pm

Can't go back....so stop pining.

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:18am

Id take the AAC easily. Id consider the MWC.

Turbine

10/11/17 8:05pm

He's right, as are most of the former players saying this

mosterlow

10/11/17 8:05pm

Absolutely, most former players get it.

CB4

10/11/17 8:07pm

Kalani gets it, too. We're 1-5, but it's okay cause he gets it.

Left Shark Coug

10/11/17 8:16pm

Every former player I have spoken with thinks BYU should go back to a conferenc.

mm73

10/12/17 5:16am

Except Criddle and Cam Jensen who'd trade every one of their

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:47pm

And Austin Collie and Kehl and Pitta...basically everybody who played in the MWC

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:50pm

I spoke with Kehl about it after a fireside that he gave for our stake.

mm73

10/13/17 4:08am

I would love either AAC or MW

Baseball77

10/11/17 8:09pm

Is this for real? The Mountain West?!?

Ushuaia

10/11/17 8:37pm

Haha...tide has turned and some on here are still in denial

kosmokramer

10/11/17 8:14pm

RE: Haha...tide has turned and some on here are still in denial

Abe Froman

10/11/17 8:44pm

RE: Haha...tide has turned and some on here are still in denial

d-coug

10/11/17 8:48pm

Vocal minority. Not even close to a majority. Those that know we will be independent through the tv rights upheaval

Refugee

10/11/17 8:49pm

Wrong. These games from Oct thru Nov still feel like exhibition games

Run-DMT

10/11/17 8:56pm

Aren't they all against MWC teams but one?

kooogar

10/11/17 10:03pm

And they would still be if we were in the MWC. You have no argument

Dissenter

10/12/17 11:22am

Bingo, the MWC is irrelevant....hmm remaining games are the MWC teams

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:45pm

Drage brought it up...October and November are

kosmokramer

10/11/17 9:02pm

Win a few... we did. We didn't get in. What will a few more do?

Memmo

10/11/17 9:18pm

P5 ain’t happening. That ship sailed. We already spent 7 years in

cougtrain

10/11/17 9:51pm

I didn't say we were necessarily getting in. Just that independence won't end until TV rights are up and those that know

Refugee

10/12/17 5:00am

Majority of former players want G5 irrelevance and far less money?

CougarThug

10/11/17 10:03pm

It's the truth. We are much better off being in a conference. Beyond obvious.

Joe Hardy

10/12/17 9:23am

Only to the vocal minority and only looking through the rearview mirror of how things once were in college football.

Refugee

10/12/17 10:23am

Yep

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:46pm

I totally agree with him. Our pride is all that is keeping us from the MWC.

YSMACK

10/11/17 9:21pm

And $. But who cares about $ right?

GOR

10/11/17 9:46pm

They aren’t giving that money to me, so I don’t care about it. It’s not enough

cougtrain

10/11/17 10:24pm

The only reason why we can't go back now is that it signals we have given up.

Backcountry

10/11/17 9:28pm

Waiting this long to do something was very shortsighted

kosmokramer

10/11/17 9:33pm

I agree is Drage

Buck99

10/11/17 9:40pm

After Big 12 slammed the door in our face, I sadly agree.

Countcougula

10/11/17 9:50pm

The next round of realignment.

GOR

10/11/17 10:53pm

I think it's already been made painfully obvious that those in power don't want

Countcougula

10/11/17 11:07pm

I think you're right - but we have to know for sure before we leave indy IMO.

GOR

10/11/17 11:09pm

I can respect that opinion and I think it's the Hail Mary TH is holding onto.

Countcougula

10/11/17 11:15pm

Why? It’s easy to jump from the AAC or MWC to a p5. Look at all the teams that

cougtrain

10/11/17 11:16pm

^^^THIS^^^ Indy was ok when we could pretend each game was important because the

cougtrain

10/11/17 10:58pm

that's not what P5 leagues are telling Tom.

HarlemCoug

10/11/17 11:08pm

He told you that did he? They’re saying, “Tom, we turned down millions of

cougtrain

10/11/17 11:22pm

you can call Tom a liar, but I won't

HarlemCoug

10/11/17 11:48pm

I doubt Drage really means that.

CMuehle

10/11/17 9:55pm

Bronco said it in what 2014 or 2015? And he was the coach speak king.

CB4

10/11/17 10:05pm

Actually, no, I don't remember

CMuehle

10/11/17 11:07pm

Well, for one thing, we'd be completely out of the MWC race anyway....

cajuncoug

10/11/17 9:55pm

CajunCoug for the win. Couldn't have said it better.

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:53pm

I've never wanted to be on the B-team. Seems Drage would rather play on the B-team. I'd rather lose to A-teams.

HarlemCoug

10/11/17 10:46pm

I agree with him. It's time to admit that Independence is a failed experiment.

eddog

10/11/17 11:10pm

Going g5 means accepting that BYUis second tier. Staying indy very well may lead

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:04am

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BlueForLife

10/12/17 12:08am

I agree with Drage. Give me intrigue and something to play for in November. Any

BlueForLife

10/12/17 12:03am

We would make less money and watch less games on TV. Yuck

youngster

10/12/17 12:08am

But the team will have something to play for

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:27am

Ummm...we r playing to get to a bowl game

zerome4sooners

10/12/17 5:03am

Because indy is workng so well! Indy=G5/D2. 103rd ranked .... Too many 2 star

blackshirts

10/12/17 5:37am

Living in the past

Freddie Cougar

10/12/17 8:04am

Yep...CFB will never go back to what it was when he played.

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:52pm

Brandon Bradley said the same

shakarocks

10/12/17 9:14am

NEVER NEVER NEVER MWC

runningryan

10/12/17 10:24am

I'd like to ask him if you lose 5 games do you still have something to play for?

ArchbishopMitty

10/12/17 6:31pm

Bingo

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