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Oct 12, 2017
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Nat Gas Man

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To be clear... Tom Holmoe wants BYU in a P5 conference. That is the goal. It is achievable. He's working

HarlemCoug Playmaker

10/12/17 12:32pm

Any kind of guarantee that the program will actually be funded to compete at a P5 level if/when we get there?

foofcoug

10/12/17 12:33pm

Probably not to your satisfaction, but yes they would fund the program

basman

10/12/17 12:36pm

I can't guarantee it. But there's a lot of history of "doing things the BYU way" and going the cheap route.

foofcoug

10/12/17 12:38pm

Meaning they don't take on an obscene amount of debt? If that's what you're

basman

10/12/17 12:40pm

No, just talking about paying coaches market level salaries. Investing in equipment, technology, meeting rooms, locker

foofcoug

10/12/17 12:43pm

I'll bet the tennis team would be able to pay their coaches pretty well

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:45pm

The athletic department will be allowed to spend whatever revenue it makes

StantonMac

10/12/17 3:31pm

I guess we'll see with the next round of re-alignment. The Big XII didn't extend

Windward_Coug

10/12/17 12:38pm

This seems most likely to me. We end up in a somewhat watered down B12 but have P5 status/access. Would be great...

HarlemCoug

10/12/17 12:44pm

It would be better than the "BCS" Big East conference those last few years.

Windward_Coug

10/12/17 12:45pm

That would be great. That is our best bet.

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:46pm

If TX and OU leave, the Big 12 will be curb-stomped

Everyman

10/12/17 12:56pm

The B12 team who get demoted will sue. Anti-trust issues. Right? I can't imagine a demotion without seriously

HarlemCoug

10/12/17 1:03pm

yes that is too much expose and asks for Federal intervention

Nat Gas Man

10/12/17 1:08pm

Nothing happened when the Big East was demoted or at least nothing significant

rmreitz

10/12/17 2:20pm

The teams left were not the original Blue bloods

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:41pm

The BE never sued. Neither will the Big 12,

Everyman

10/12/17 3:59pm

P5 access to what?

displacedute

10/12/17 4:55pm

Most of that depends upon what the Big does. If they expand the SEC will follow

Nat Gas Man

10/12/17 12:45pm

Doesn't the PAC 12 grant of rights expire about the same time as the Big 12's?

boscatar

10/12/17 12:47pm

Joining a G5 means admitting that P5 will never happen. How long will it take

DoseOfReality

10/12/17 12:38pm

Yes, P5 is an option. Some of us argue that G5 puts us in the best position to

TheLoneCougar

10/12/17 12:41pm

You're referring to our 2017 win loss record right? Because otherwise the numbers in Independence

MaxxPower

10/12/17 5:36pm

I know this is directed primarily at me. Of course Tom wants BYU in a P5.

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:44pm

Well Tom...let's be honest. The ONLY thing that P5 conferences are interested in

Lifi

10/12/17 12:47pm

it's better than most - our revenues for the Utah game this year were the highest revenues ever for a

HarlemCoug

10/12/17 12:52pm

Signed: B1G’s addition of Rutgers and Maryland...

BamaCoug

10/12/17 9:01pm

The definition of "achievable" is debatable. The conference we fit best

Scott_Tenorman

10/12/17 12:51pm

That ship has sailed

TNT

10/12/17 1:16pm

not necessarily...there is a lot in play...

Nat Gas Man

10/12/17 1:21pm

Nope. 2011 was BYU's shot

TNT

10/12/17 1:21pm

Next shot is 2024. Things then will be interesting. Not sure get the invite, but I expect changes then.

Turnpike Lane

10/12/17 1:29pm

They'd have to change the wording in the HC for us to even have a shot imo. The

Windward_Coug

10/12/17 1:37pm

Gives 7 years to make revisions.

Turnpike Lane

10/12/17 1:49pm

True.

Turbine

10/12/17 1:34pm

I wish I could fly like superman or look like Brad Pit..

Coug

10/12/17 1:20pm

Unfortunately, TH and the BYU BOT don't get a vote until there's an invite.

TrueBlue67

10/12/17 1:33pm

It was the BE/AAC that referred to our "piece of work" lawyers, not the B12

boscatar

10/12/17 2:17pm

Is he really tirelessly working on it? Doesn't he have a full job already...

Hill4Heisman

10/12/17 2:25pm

His job is harder than any other AD. His responsibilities include filling out a

Backcountry

10/12/17 2:47pm

Don't try to run before you can walk

FootFAN

10/12/17 2:30pm

If we were P5, we would hire successful coaches from the G5 ranks...

boscatar

10/12/17 4:08pm

How is suggesting G5>Indy sabotaging efforts to get into a P5?

Junior Deputy

10/12/17 2:45pm

Don't you know? Indy is the only way. A G5 team has never received a P5 invite.

JarJarBeeps

10/12/17 5:00pm

OK, but that statement from Holmoe would be like single me saying

fredgarvin

10/12/17 3:00pm

Whatever

shakarocks

10/12/17 3:03pm

Everyone wants that.

Countcougula

10/12/17 3:04pm

Don't see BYU moving the needle with the football W/L record over the last 7

palangi

10/12/17 3:32pm

Not undermining... just not thinking big enough.

(Private)

10/12/17 5:32pm

He's been working on it for 6 years. He's not capable. In the meantime, Indy..

What_The_Hill?

10/12/17 7:03pm

Give it up. It’s not going to happen.

mm73

10/12/17 7:56pm

Talk is cheap.

Turd Furguson

10/12/17 8:10pm

A P5 conference has to invite BYU. That's not achievable.

Polecat

10/12/17 8:21pm

Totally agree. Sure, Tom wants the Y in a P5 conference, and he's worked very hard for it,

Y-Phile

10/13/17 1:11am

Then we should just shut down the program. There isn't enough money in even an

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 2:13pm

Attendence would be fine.

shakarocks

10/13/17 2:29pm

not at the current prices

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 2:34pm

Feel free to contribute LiveCoug

shakarocks

10/13/17 2:51pm

Just how much are we riding in the black right now?

Coug

10/13/17 2:42pm

my guess with the addition costs of FCOA it is about $4M...but with the BB field

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 2:46pm

It's just time to start being very honest with ourselves...

Coug

10/13/17 3:20pm

It all depends on the sales pitch...

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