I can't define it, but I know it when I see it.

She will miss it.

Gerald-DeGroot

11/13/17 3:35pm

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East1999

11/13/17 4:37pm

I know mine doesn't miss Utah.

VACOUGFAN

11/13/17 11:05pm

Arizona.

brj8

11/13/17 3:35pm

Too hot.

PharmD

11/13/17 3:35pm

She will REALLY miss it if she moves to AZ.

Gerald-DeGroot

11/13/17 3:40pm

AZ is for those who hate fall, winter, & spring, & like only hot and hotter.

BlueBlood94

11/13/17 4:43pm

it’s true, he needs to stay away

mosterlow

11/13/17 4:53pm

utah county

4mack

11/13/17 3:35pm

Too many Mormons.

PharmD

11/13/17 3:36pm

maybe J. Golden Kimball has a suggestion...

hxmCougar2000

11/13/17 3:38pm

[background for those not familiar...]

hxmCougar2000

11/13/17 3:40pm

Phoenix valley is great

MikeDitka'sStache

11/13/17 3:35pm

Living in an oven is great!

TailgateU

11/14/17 7:36am

Where even at 3 in the morning, you'll sweat if outside!

BlueBlood94

11/14/17 8:53am

Compton

ChairmanOfTheBoard

11/13/17 3:35pm

NoVA is nice. Nice weather..nice people...though it is turning more liberal each

Fdnman

11/13/17 3:36pm

NoVA has nice weather? No.

JmThms

11/13/17 4:40pm

4 seasons, no major weather issues, couple snow "storms" per winter.

VACOUGFAN

11/13/17 11:08pm

Depends on the weather you like I suppose. It has a little of everything and

Fdnman

11/14/17 6:28am

I grew up in SE Virginia. Thats why I now live in the Southwest US.

JmThms

11/14/17 5:23pm

SoMa. (Man what I'd give to be able to have Maryland annex that part of Virginia

VACOUGFAN

11/13/17 11:06pm

Northern part? Fairfax county?

JmThms

11/14/17 5:28pm

We were in North Carolina for the summer in Charlotte and really liked it

MwangoleCoug9

11/13/17 3:36pm

San Diego

monkeycowboy

11/13/17 3:36pm

Too expensive.

PharmD

11/13/17 3:37pm

America's Finest City™️

CrashMcLarson

11/13/17 3:38pm

Horribly overrated.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/14/17 4:04am

RE: Horribly overrated.

CrashMcLarson

11/14/17 9:00am

She would love East Valley in Phoenix

2FarGone

11/13/17 3:37pm

My CB opinion of Mesa and related places is that they're for 'Utah Mormons' who

TaiJuan

11/13/17 3:39pm

Could you provide a definition or explanation of what you mean by "Utah Mormon"?

TailgateU

11/14/17 7:37am

I can't define it, but I know it when I see it.

Jay Rick

11/14/17 11:55am

Sounds judgmental and clannish to me.

TailgateU

11/14/17 11:59am

RE: I can't define it, but I know it when I see it.

WDaddy

11/14/17 12:14pm

This is where I plan on moving to eventually

JohnnyComeLately

11/13/17 3:40pm

Lived there for 9 years. But it's probably the worst place to live and work for an educator.

Adrielle

11/17/17 7:45am

East valley is by far the cleanest area I have ever lived

mosterlow

11/13/17 3:49pm

Where in SLC? Does she hate Utah or your neighborhood? There's massive variation

TaiJuan

11/13/17 3:37pm

Newport Beach or Newport coast. Pelican hill would be my neighborhood of choice

RalphWiggam

11/13/17 3:37pm

But California

Zaphod

11/13/17 3:40pm

Meh. Unhappy one place means she'll likely be unhappy at the next

cougfanz

11/13/17 3:38pm

Henderson, Nevada

buckweave

11/13/17 3:38pm

Virginia Beach

CSoul

11/13/17 3:38pm

Norfolk, Chesapeake, Yorktown, Williamsburg

MajorZeus

11/13/17 3:43pm

I grew up in Williamsburg.

JmThms

11/13/17 4:42pm

My sister teaches at Jamestown HS. Did you go there?

flavordave

11/13/17 4:43pm

No. I went to Bruton HS. Jamestown HS didn't exist when I was in HS.

JmThms

11/13/17 6:38pm

It is a dead-horse topic, but my take on "Utah Culture."

CosmoK

11/13/17 3:39pm

Agree

cougfanz

11/13/17 3:41pm

You nailed the problem: a few million people

Busiturtle

11/13/17 3:51pm

It would be nice to have some land.

PharmD

11/13/17 3:57pm

I feel that way sometimes. But it is also a double edged sword.

CosmoK

11/13/17 4:59pm

No, they needed to build a bigger highway, also build a 2nd.

Dissenter

11/14/17 4:34pm

South Carolina has poor public education.

CougarLoyalist

11/13/17 3:39pm

Totally depends on the reasons for hating Utah. What are they? Weather?

Jay Rick

11/13/17 3:40pm

good people can be happy anywhere.

riboflavin

11/13/17 3:40pm

I always laugh at all those in my neighborhood complain about this or that

CSoul

11/13/17 3:42pm

Cleveland?

Zaphod

11/13/17 3:42pm

clovis, CA...not joking. it's great. fresno is pretty meh but clovis has

nashty

11/13/17 3:40pm

There are very few cities in South Carolina I would live in. If you are serious,

Millhouse

11/13/17 3:41pm

I'd love to live in the PNW. You have to be able to handle the weather though.

delux_247

11/13/17 3:42pm

Bend, Oregon. PNW without the rain.

letthewookiewin

11/13/17 3:57pm

Beware the I5 corridor in Oregon & Washington

Tsisquan

11/13/17 9:32pm

I always pitch the PNW. I live near Everett, WA, and LOVE it.

Breaded Hamster

11/13/17 10:41pm

I served my mission there. Absolutely beautiful!

TailgateU

11/14/17 7:42am

What exactly does she not like about Utah? Is it weather? Culture?

Adrielle

11/13/17 3:42pm

Just moved from NC. We miss it and the cost of living can not be beat.

rommeliv

11/13/17 3:43pm

Rexburg.

TouchdownCougars

11/13/17 3:43pm

Dallas Texas

IceBlueCoug

11/13/17 3:44pm

Cardston. It will save her a trip from having to walk there when the world ends.

CougarAndMerlin

11/13/17 3:44pm

Ames, IA. Change some hearts and minds about BYU to the Big 12.

Blue Cat

11/13/17 3:44pm

Have you ever been to Ames?

2FarGone

11/13/17 3:47pm

I didn't say it would be easy. . .

Blue Cat

11/13/17 3:57pm

I only said it would be worth it

PenrynCoug

11/13/17 4:39pm

There are a lot of bad Big 12 destination cities but you could do a lot better than Ames

Indy Coug

11/13/17 4:06pm

If I lived in SLC, I would hate Utah too. Move to Utah County.

BYUtka

11/13/17 3:45pm

Yeah. Let’s move to the literal Hell on earth!

The Dude Abides

11/13/17 4:00pm

He already said he was in SLC.

BYUtka

11/13/17 4:15pm

Chicago is the abusive lover I can’t quit

Modiolus

11/13/17 3:46pm

A new downtown church just finished too. Living downton in river north

Baron

11/13/17 3:50pm

if i lived in Murray, i'd feel the same way

BlueFrog

11/13/17 3:46pm

Grand Junction, Colorado. A biker's paradise! And, we could use more

diluigifan

11/13/17 3:48pm

We have family there...could be fun.

PharmD

11/13/17 3:49pm

I am not kidding when I say it is a biker's paradise. It is incredible...

diluigifan

11/13/17 3:59pm

Road, Mtn, or both?

PharmD

11/13/17 4:04pm

Mainly known for mountain biking, but the road biking is pretty fantastic as

diluigifan

11/13/17 4:15pm

I have also lived in upstate South Carolina. The road biking community in that

diluigifan

11/13/17 4:16pm

Colorado Springs would be nice too.

delux_247

11/13/17 3:55pm

trade irritating Mormons for irritating born again Christians though...

pegushin

11/13/17 4:07pm

Colorado Springs > SLC and it's not even close. The born-agains were way less

supertux

11/13/17 4:26pm

I like ColoSpgs

ColoSpgs

11/13/17 5:11pm

My wife is under the impression that Colorado is full of anti mormons.

PharmD

11/13/17 4:10pm

I encountered far more anti in SLC than I ever did in Colorado. I served my

supertux

11/13/17 4:15pm

That's how I think it would be.

PharmD

11/13/17 4:17pm

I live in SLC, E bench near yew, and this is true. They all take the Trib 😉

tander123

11/13/17 6:57pm

She’s wants to get away from Mormons but is worried about anti-mormons? You’ve got a tough job ahead of you.

The Dude Abides

11/13/17 4:17pm

True.

PharmD

11/13/17 4:19pm

The two tend to go hand in hand. Go where there are no mormons and there won't

Jay Rick

11/13/17 5:44pm

I've lived in Colorado the past 17 years, and can't think of 1 encounter

Coug Eastwood

11/13/17 4:40pm

And South Carolina loves Mormons?

WDaddy

11/13/17 6:07pm

No more than anywhere else and less than in Utah

Tsisquan

11/13/17 9:35pm

I love South Carolina and would move there if you had the chance

mosterlow

11/13/17 3:50pm

We lived in SC for a little while and loved it! Our kids were little at the time

diluigifan

11/13/17 4:00pm

Bariloche Argentina

Revolution

11/13/17 3:52pm

Fairfax or Loudoun County, VA; Charlotte, NC; Cary, NC; Charleston, SC

Iman23

11/13/17 3:55pm

Manhattan Kansas?

1-Wing RCAF

11/13/17 3:56pm

Monterey, CA

Jeremy

11/13/17 3:56pm

Southern VA, NC

BYU Grounds

11/13/17 4:00pm

Hawaii but no public schools for the kids unless they are Polynesian.

FrontLineFan

11/13/17 4:00pm

Are used to think having good public schools was important

Modiolus

11/13/17 4:09pm

bm COBluezone about it, he moved from Utah and seems to love it there

pegushin

11/13/17 4:04pm

Definitely South Carolina. You won't regret it.

endy

11/13/17 4:10pm

I wouldn't move. I'd try to figure out the root of your wife's unhappiness.

BustinCoveys

11/13/17 4:12pm

What if the root cause really is that she doesn't like Utah?

CougarLoyalist

11/14/17 10:50am

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MMCougIII

11/13/17 4:18pm

Might as well come to Austin . . . everyone else is. We're far beyond the

Bumpus Hound

11/13/17 4:28pm

How’s the traffic treating you?

Bonoman

11/17/17 7:32pm

Fine. The reputation is deserved for some commutes. You just have to know where

Bumpus Hound

11/25/17 4:30pm

Near to any temple.

Sooner Cougar

11/13/17 4:36pm

Albuquerque for obvious reasons.

Turnpike Lane

11/13/17 4:37pm

RE: Albuquerque for obvious reasons.

EpicAccountant

11/13/17 4:44pm

was expecting a breaking bad gif.

Jay Rick

11/13/17 5:46pm

One last vote for South Carolina. Good mix of culture, weather, and laid back

Baron

11/13/17 5:47pm

It all depends on what is most important to you

MapCoug

11/13/17 5:53pm

I dont hate UTAH

kahuna

11/13/17 5:56pm

Texas, Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh

WDaddy

11/13/17 6:09pm

I used to dislike UT until I moved to northern UT.

Oregano

11/13/17 6:23pm

Denver

Tsisquan

11/13/17 9:22pm

If it’s just weather look at Seattle- or Wanatchee WA- we live Texas with our kids raising them here. Similar values &

SouthernBlueBlood

11/14/17 5:36am

I've never understood the hatred for Utah. I grew up there but have since lived

TailgateU

11/14/17 7:21am

Because Utah Mormons can be weird to those who didn’t grow up there. Plus other things

SouthernBlueBlood

11/14/17 7:25am

So what exactly is a "Utah Mormon"? I've heard people speak in church about how

TailgateU

11/14/17 8:24am

It usually tells a lot more about the person speaking than it does about anyone

BYUtka

11/14/17 10:36am

^^^

TailgateU

11/14/17 11:52am

There is a culture in Utah that isn't for everyone.

CougarLoyalist

11/14/17 10:57am

There are negative parts of culture everywhere. Every area is its own bubble

BYUtka

11/14/17 1:17pm

Totally agree. Definitely some good and bad in living in Utah as well as any

CougarLoyalist

11/15/17 7:13am

Most of that "weird" thing was their preconceived notion.

JmThms

11/18/17 1:05pm

We were recently given the opportunity to live anywhere we wanted in the lower

hadmonster

11/14/17 7:45am

Come on down to New Mexico. All 4 seasons just milder winter. Can't dislike

LaserCoug

11/14/17 1:11pm

Do comment...

buckles

11/14/17 3:37pm

I prefer Albuquerque but I was pleasantly surprised last time I stayed in

LaserCoug

11/14/17 4:38pm

I am glad you like NM. I had to travel there often for work several years

hadmonster

11/15/17 7:10am

The taxes are terrible, but I am really liking Chicagoland. Lots to do, not too expensive, and some great schools

morningcalmcougar

11/14/17 3:02pm

Wauwatosa, WI

Littlerich

11/17/17 7:33am

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