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Apr 16, 2012 - 5:44pm

Abe Froman

Or, you could get the point. Berth <> birth.

And BYU fans talk about winning a National Championship because BYU actually has.

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You can call it fear, but it's really just business (long)

Medute

Apr 16, 07:57am

Sad deal

IJustMussedMyPants

Apr 16, 08:00am

This reveals the perilous risk of continuing as an Indy

BYUtiful

Apr 16, 11:40am

We're already in deep doo doo

Douger

Apr 16, 11:46am

I disagree

BYUtiful

Apr 16, 11:48am

Well, sure, it's not set in stone

Douger

Apr 16, 11:57am

Agreed. That's why I think we COULD be in

BYUtiful

Apr 16, 12:10pm

I am an old Cornhusker fan

HighHorse

Apr 16, 08:02am

dont mind losing Utah at all

SaltLakeCoug

Apr 18, 12:23am

That is the top of your wish list. I just isn't true.

Matthute

Apr 19, 11:54am

Silly Ute, nobody knows about Utah elsewhere (nm)

Douger

Apr 21, 05:21pm

That's what I thought too, really. It was interesting. (nm)

Matthute

Apr 22, 12:28am

Explain SoCal-ND (nm)

cougarick

Apr 16, 08:04am

Boom (nm)

hansel

Apr 16, 08:09am

< crickets > (nm)

Abe Froman

Apr 16, 08:28am

Sorry, I was asleep! :)

Medute

Apr 16, 04:21pm

Utah =/= USC. BYU =/= ND. (short)

VirginiaUte

Apr 16, 09:12am

Yet it blows 99% of his arguments out of the water (nm)

cougarick

Apr 16, 09:13am

Why do you think that?

VirginiaUte

Apr 16, 09:21am

You don't give up a game with your only rival, period (nm)

cougarick

Apr 16, 09:24am

I'm on your side with that opinion.

VirginiaUte

Apr 16, 09:27am

It blows conference significance and SOS issues,

cougarick

Apr 16, 09:33am

I would argue that USC/ND aren't in same market

VirginiaUte

Apr 16, 09:38am

ND pulls recruits from SoCal (nm)

Steve O'Rama

Apr 16, 12:13pm

In a strange way, it actually supports the initial argument.

Matthute

Apr 16, 10:14am

RE: Utah =/= USC. BYU =/= ND.

SaltLakeCoug

Apr 20, 09:58am

Easy answer - Utah is not USC

Medute

Apr 16, 04:20pm

So, fear of the risk of injuries and missing a bowl game? (nm)

Abe Froman

Apr 16, 05:30pm

And money (remember the business part) (nm)

Medute

Apr 16, 05:35pm

But not "just business", as per your OP. Fear, also. (nm)

Abe Froman

Apr 16, 06:03pm

Stanford and Notre Dame

Hoosier Coug

Apr 16, 08:07am

That just shows the hypocrisy of the PAC. (nm)

Douger

Apr 16, 08:11am

Not the Pac. Utah.

Blue Cat

Apr 16, 02:13pm

About your gif...

BluePete

Apr 16, 08:07am

May I point out that the kid is wearing a RED shirt? (nm)

Mister P

Apr 16, 08:16am

Just a little light humor (nm)

Medute

Apr 16, 04:23pm

explain Colorado vs Colorado State (short)

haroldskilley

Apr 16, 08:08am

It's a tough call Hill has to make

hansel

Apr 16, 08:13am

Put it this way. Purdue doesn't need to play Notre Dame

hansel

Apr 16, 08:15am

Exactly right. A huge gamble to take with

messi

Apr 16, 09:37am

Seriously? Did you not notice that a 10 win BYU team

jt04

Apr 16, 11:58am

Yep..."all in" makes for great movies, but it can

BluePete

Apr 16, 12:02pm

There's plenty of bigger OOC rivalries

Douger

Apr 16, 08:10am

Hear me now.

Mister P

Apr 16, 08:12am

I agree. I don't see Utah being more successful in the pac

bald man

Apr 16, 08:16am

I can see that happening (nm)

IJustMussedMyPants

Apr 16, 08:31am

Yep. Good point. I can't see why the average P12 athlete

BluePete

Apr 16, 08:48am

Seriously? Have you been to Tuscon? Pullman? Corvalis?

jt04

Apr 16, 12:04pm

I can see that, only way that would be reversed

Heinz57

Apr 16, 08:56am

I hope he says yes. It's a good rivalry. (nm)

SouthernCoug

Apr 16, 09:54am

Very possible. (nm)

OhYePoorFools

Apr 16, 09:56am

Yes, Utah's future dependent on BYU's graces.

Duhwayne

Apr 16, 10:17am

Wow. Just wow. A yewt talking about backsliding into

IceBlue

Apr 16, 10:37am

For starters, the game will be played now and again

Matthute

Apr 16, 01:18pm

Oh, so we'll play it when you want. (short)

Douger

Apr 16, 01:44pm

I like having the game and I would rather it continue but if

Matthute

Apr 17, 01:33pm

Maybe

Cougrrrs Roll

Apr 16, 05:34pm

My favorite part about your rant is...

Kaze

Apr 16, 08:25am

Don't forget the Rose Bowl "birth". (nm)

Abe Froman

Apr 16, 08:27am

Maybe I should approach it like a Y fan

Medute

Apr 16, 04:32pm

Or, you could get the point. Berth <> birth.

Abe Froman

Apr 16, 05:44pm

Rant - I don't think that word means what you think it means

Medute

Apr 16, 04:31pm

So USC isn't playing Notre Dame anymore?

cmck1724

Apr 16, 08:48am

I've come to the same terms with it is as you have, I think.

VirginiaUte

Apr 16, 09:11am

It's looks like fear to me

jordanteuscher

Apr 16, 09:24am

Whatever makes you feel better about it. (nm)

VirginiaUte

Apr 16, 09:28am

head.in.sand. (nm)

bigbluecougar

Apr 16, 10:39am

^Irony^ Did you watch last year's game? What about

VirginiaUte

Apr 16, 10:47am

Any explanation you can offer about why

bigbluecougar

Apr 16, 10:52am

Yeah...we're done here. (nm)

VirginiaUte

Apr 16, 11:02am

Are the utes afraid of injury?

bigbluecougar

Apr 16, 10:38am

This will tell a lot about the integrity of Utah IMO

ocmyhome

Apr 16, 09:40am

Or lack thereof. (nm)

BluePete

Apr 16, 09:41am

+1. You make your bed - you sleep on it. (nm)

mrclark411

Apr 16, 10:07am

In today's culture, I doubt BYU would act differently.

sheriffcreg

Apr 16, 10:19am

Ya we are. We dragged you along for thirty years

Douger

Apr 16, 10:22am

Bull. If you had the offer and Utah didn't (short)

Duhwayne

Apr 16, 10:28am

Yes. We actually did. (nm)

IceBlue

Apr 16, 10:39am

Really? Which one? (short)

Duhwayne

Apr 16, 10:42am

Just because Utah benefited more 1970-2000...

sheriffcreg

Apr 16, 10:31am

BYU is different. I'm not saying "better", but different,

ocmyhome

Apr 16, 10:30am

Yes, you are special. (nm)

Duhwayne

Apr 16, 10:38am

Yup, true colors there... (nm)

ocmyhome

Apr 16, 10:41am

And yet this attitude may have gotten TCU a Big 12 invite. (nm)

jt04

Apr 16, 12:05pm

These hypotheticals don't do any good

Medute

Apr 16, 04:36pm

to be fair, one can't logically be upset w/ Utah

ocmyhome

Apr 16, 04:57pm

That's why I mentioned the tradition as the only positive

Medute

Apr 16, 05:15pm

Like it or not, it helps you recruit here. (nm)

Douger

Apr 16, 05:18pm

I don't think so

Medute

Apr 16, 05:36pm

Kids are silly and easily influenced.

Douger

Apr 16, 05:50pm

nice gif, btw. Hilarious. (nm)

Douger

Apr 16, 05:50pm

That's my point. (nm)

jt04

Apr 16, 06:58pm

This is a business...But, one thing that says more than

TrueBlue67

Apr 16, 10:28am

Urban leaving when he did was the best thing that

jt04

Apr 16, 12:08pm

Someone on here strongly refuted that once

Medute

Apr 16, 04:40pm

Why do I get the suspicion, though, that the Yewts just

FierceArc

Apr 16, 10:33am

Yes, it probably has to do with how to handle BYU.

Duhwayne

Apr 16, 10:37am

The number of recruits they compete for is fairly small

Medute

Apr 16, 04:45pm

RE: You can call it fear, but it's really just business

Ute_Tribe

Apr 16, 11:13am

scared (nm)

Jericho

Apr 16, 11:19am

It doesn't seem like a good business move either

Pasadena

Apr 16, 11:26am

Here is my explanation

Medute

Apr 16, 04:49pm

Wo ... I was at that party! (nm)

Johnny Vatos

Apr 16, 11:46am

No disagreement here. BYU would have to do the same thing (short)

bluefish

Apr 16, 11:58am

Completey disagree

Douger

Apr 16, 12:03pm

Maybe that is why TCU is the Big 12 and not BYU. (nm)

jt04

Apr 16, 12:09pm

I think that's a whole different can of worms (nm)

Douger

Apr 16, 12:12pm

You're probably right. I was being snarky. ;) (nm)

jt04

Apr 16, 01:32pm

doesn't matter what you call it

Broncoite

Apr 16, 12:08pm

It's not fear. It's the fact that they have moved on

saltlakecoug1

Apr 16, 01:48pm

sure, part of it is arrogance, but a large part of it is (short)

Jericho

Apr 16, 01:49pm

Kind of like all these threads? (nm)

jt04

Apr 16, 02:13pm

Are they making you feel even more insecure? (nm)

Jericho

Apr 19, 11:09am

Ute Fan Base will dwindle

DazeofBlue

Apr 16, 05:18pm

It will put Utah on the fast track to irrelevance (nm)

wapiti

Apr 17, 12:22am

Being in the PAC-12? Getting QB's that attended elite 11

jt04

Apr 17, 11:47am

You can call it business, but it's really just fear. (nm)

bluegato

Apr 17, 11:32am

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