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Apr 30, 2012 - 11:00am

murrolems

I think people would give Bronco more of a pass on the

football is 5th thing (like they do with everyone else that brings God into football) if it didn't shine through so much in his rhetoric. That and losing big games.

Bottom line is we're all looking for the reasons why the program has suffered, this is an easy one to point to.

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I guess I'm one of the "whiners" or at least that's the (loong)

sonofchet

Apr 30, 09:09am

Yes, you are a whiner. (nm)

SoCalCoug

Apr 30, 09:10am

RE: Yes, you are a whiner.

01inarow

Apr 30, 01:45pm

I have no idea what your talking about

youngster

Apr 30, 07:02pm

hinckley's #2 responsibility was to his employer? (short)

ds7

Apr 30, 09:13am

Himself (nm)

DapperDan

Apr 30, 09:14am

Ooh, you're so clever, you caught me being misleading.

sonofchet

Apr 30, 09:16am

It was his #2 priority for all of us, not just himself. (short)

Matthute

Apr 30, 01:04pm

Actually I think employer/job was #3.. after spouse (short)

Accipiter

May 1, 12:25pm

Link? I can't find the talk (nm)

May 1, 05:57pm

It wasn't a talk, it was a worldwide leadership training.

sonofchet

May 1, 06:00pm

That's why I couldn't find it, but it says fam #1, emp #2

May 1, 06:08pm

Think about it for a minute... on the team you have

Accipiter

May 1, 06:17pm

Agreed. It went wrong when Bronco created a list.

Matthute

May 1, 08:54pm

+1 - If we have to choose lists, I'll go with Pres. Hinckley

May 1, 10:09pm

I'm with Pres. Hinckley as well. (nm)

Matthute

May 2, 08:54am

That's not Bronco's priority list

Caboom

Apr 30, 09:18am

Well, Pres. Hinckley's list has church responsibilities

sonofchet

Apr 30, 09:23am

The mission of BYU athletics

Caboom

Apr 30, 09:28am

Seems like athletics comes before faith on that list too (nm)

DapperDan

Apr 30, 09:31am

Looks like the athletic department has football at #2 (nm)

foofcoug

Apr 30, 09:31am

How so? Right there in black and white it puts athletics as

sonofchet

Apr 30, 09:31am

I'm not saying that Bronco is perfect at it

Caboom

Apr 30, 09:54am

I think you did misunderstand. Like I said in the OP,

sonofchet

Apr 30, 09:56am

are those 2 things mutually exclusive ?

ManicBlue

Apr 30, 01:03pm

<< Deleted >> (nm)

IJustMussedMyPants

Apr 30, 12:08pm

At lease "athletics" is #2 for the Athletic Dept. #5 for

Matthute

Apr 30, 01:11pm

Please tell me you are kidding about him saying that? (nm)

Jkampana

Apr 30, 09:28am

Nope, the point he was trying to make is actually kind of a

sonofchet

Apr 30, 09:38am

you've articulated the position of the hsaru, jkampana,

ds7

Apr 30, 09:30am

He's articulated the position of a large contingent of the (short)

whoneedscorners?

Apr 30, 09:31am

we'd be better off without them...

ds7

Apr 30, 09:36am

Hint: programs aren't better off with fewer fans and donors (nm)

DapperDan

Apr 30, 09:38am

Really? LOL. (short)

whoneedscorners?

Apr 30, 09:40am

Haha, we've heard it all now. (nm)

messi

Apr 30, 09:41am

LOL.....ya the program would be better of getting rid of (short)

kotacoug

Apr 30, 09:44am

Oh wow (short)

Jkampana

Apr 30, 09:45am

yeah...

ds7

Apr 30, 09:48am

In that case (short)

Jkampana

Apr 30, 09:52am

how bout BYU change athletics to be year round EFY (short)

mottman

Apr 30, 09:47am

No temple recommend = can't buy tickets. (nm)

sonofchet

Apr 30, 09:47am

They need to add

Jkampana

Apr 30, 09:57am

Nominated. (nm)

sonofchet

Apr 30, 10:07am

Don't kid yourself. Your OP is POT decade. (nm)

Apr 30, 03:15pm

And a lot of other people, too. (nm)

LittleTex

Apr 30, 09:45am

I consistently like half of those posters' posts, and often

Apr 30, 06:05pm

Bronco is a wanna-be GA. He thinks of this as a calling

Matthute

Apr 30, 01:06pm

Football is a football player's job. PERIOD.

Apr 30, 02:29pm

Education and Football are their "job"

Accipiter

May 1, 01:27pm

Great post

Jkampana

Apr 30, 09:21am

Well said. (nm)

Zaphod

Apr 30, 09:22am

Congrats! I guess I am a whiner too! (nm)

TrueBlue67

Apr 30, 09:30am

The worst excuse: "We're unique"

Real Men Wear Blue

Apr 30, 09:32am

Agreed (nm)

Jkampana

Apr 30, 09:37am

Not a hijack, a good point. (nm)

sonofchet

Apr 30, 09:39am

If only we could nominate two posts... (nm)

Apr 30, 09:44am

Awesome Post! POTD. (nm)

Apr 30, 09:35am

Spot on! (nm)

kotacoug

Apr 30, 09:46am

So what should the priorities be?

Apr 30, 09:49am

Well, for one thing, I rarely go home from work at 6PM.

sonofchet

Apr 30, 10:07am

I forgot to add: I get paid A LOT less than Bronco. (nm)

sonofchet

Apr 30, 10:08am

You didn't answer my question.

Apr 30, 10:22am

I think I did answer it.

sonofchet

Apr 30, 10:29am

I don't think it is so much "the message" as it is in how it

TrueBlue67

Apr 30, 10:19am

I think people would give Bronco more of a pass on the

murrolems

Apr 30, 11:00am

Why talk about football as 5th priority?? Is that supposed

Apr 30, 10:00pm

And yet it is only the fans who bring it up over and over (nm)

Apr 30, 10:05pm

I agree with what you have to say.

JAM3

Apr 30, 10:29am

Sigh. Perspective people!

cu-coug

Apr 30, 11:37am

FunkeCoug endorses this message. (nm)

Apr 30, 11:54am

I agree! (nm)

IJustMussedMyPants

Apr 30, 12:09pm

Pasture is always Greener

Big Wally D

Apr 30, 01:38pm

Great for you=mediocre for me. (nm)

Apr 30, 03:17pm

Bronco is BYU's version of Ron McBride for Utah

Matthute

Apr 30, 10:19pm

Maybe the lack of draft picks has something to do with the

cu-coug

Apr 30, 01:54pm

this is not really a very good argument. (nm)

erkimust

Apr 30, 01:56pm

RE: Maybe the lack of draft picks has something to do with

BYUcash

Apr 30, 02:12pm

so 1 player doesn't pan out...who else was supposed to be

cu-coug

Apr 30, 02:34pm

ONE player who has had multiple brothers play in the NFL...

BYUcash

Apr 30, 02:57pm

Agree and disagree

ManicBlue

Apr 30, 01:58pm

<< Deleted >> (nm)

Apr 30, 02:52pm

GREAT POST. No Draft Picks = Failure within the program (nm)

BYUcash

Apr 30, 02:06pm

Great post.I've thought about 5 priorities & Pres Hinckley'

Apr 30, 02:54pm

AGREE (nm)

BYUcash

Apr 30, 03:00pm

Very well said

checoug

Apr 30, 03:46pm

Great post! I relate. (nm)

SaintGeorgeYFan

Apr 30, 07:33pm

100% agree re bronco.... In fact I think it's gross

sundance

Apr 30, 08:35pm

Because our recruiting classes have been TERRIBLE since that (short)

Apr 30, 09:55pm

Personally, I think your being a bit harsh here... perhaps

sundance

Apr 30, 11:39pm

This is a fantastic post. How could any reasonable mind

Apr 30, 09:58pm

I want Bronco to have to repent for working too much and (short)

Taq man

Apr 30, 10:12pm

Like any other D-1 coach. I feel you. (long)

Matthute

Apr 30, 10:48pm

Like 90% of people who are making $250K+

palangi

May 1, 10:02am

Bronco makes between $500 and $1M per year.

Real Men Wear Blue

May 1, 11:29am

How much he makes is such a good point actually

Matthute

May 1, 01:28pm

Absolutely. What is Bronco making? $1mm give or take? (nm)

Matthute

May 1, 01:26pm

Did Bronco even act like he wanted them to come

Accipiter

May 1, 01:42pm

I don't know. I will ask them for you. I will say that

Matthute

May 1, 05:25pm

RE: I guess I'm one of the "whiners" or at least that's the

JuanitaCougar

May 1, 12:36pm

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