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Jun 1, 2012 - 10:17am
Douger
Those two squads have won 3 titles in the last ten years.
And Auburn didn't get a shot when they went undefeated in 2004, which was ridiculous.
They are far from ASU and Cal.
They're both Top 15 programs and they're both miles ahead of anyone in the PAC not named Oregon or USC.
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MormonDevil, find me a PAC team who will face
cougarick
May 31, 03:54pm
Members of a conference want to believe every team is great
lawboy
May 31, 04:04pm
Even the fourth place PAC team wasn't that special.
Douger
May 31, 04:10pm
Outside of the top 3 the Pac was definitely down last
cocktosten
May 31, 04:16pm
I think the top few teams could compete with an SEC schedule
Douger
May 31, 04:17pm
Could be, I'm not sure. No doubt the SEC is the best
cocktosten
May 31, 04:22pm
Their bowl record against bowl eligible teams is pretty
Douger
May 31, 04:33pm
They definitely have bragging rights now and I
cocktosten
May 31, 04:36pm
The SEC is the premier conf. No doubt. Not all their
Matthute
Jun 1, 09:45pm
Remember this is basically an all-time high for Stanford
gustav88
May 31, 06:00pm
Didn't Washington put up like 70 points against the BIG12
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UCB Coug
May 31, 04:20pm
They lost. That's all that really matters.
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Douger
May 31, 04:33pm
Easy ...
MormonDevil
May 31, 04:10pm
Additionally ...
MormonDevil
May 31, 04:15pm
That's gotta be one of the toughest in the country
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cocktosten
May 31, 04:18pm
<< Deleted >>
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Bensoncoug
May 31, 04:19pm
Keep going. It's not comparable.
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Douger
May 31, 04:34pm
Southern Utah and Portland State?
cougarick
May 31, 09:52pm
Your disjointed arguments are tough to respond to ...
MormonDevil
May 31, 10:05pm
The Citadel vs Portland St...I'll take The Citadel
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cougarick
May 31, 10:12pm
Wofford? didn't know they played football.
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akmewg
May 31, 11:50pm
= UAB + Woffard
stoils
Jun 1, 10:34am
UAB is D1, and not much different from SDSU most years
cougarick
Jun 1, 10:46am
Did u think I wouldn't call you on this?
stoils
Jun 1, 11:37am
How many years did SDSU languish at the bottom of the MWC?
cougarick
Jun 1, 11:57am
He did it again ...
MormonDevil
Jun 1, 12:01pm
Southern Utah and Portland St
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cougarick
Jun 1, 12:05pm
Okay. I will indulge you ...
MormonDevil
Jun 1, 12:08pm
That you have no point when you do the same for the SEC
cougarick
Jun 1, 12:16pm
Isn't Colorado, WSU, ORST, UofA, SDSU, and Portland St ...
MormonDevil
Jun 1, 12:28pm
Nope.
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cougarick
Jun 1, 12:36pm
Probably about even
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cocktosten
Jun 1, 12:59pm
Well, yours did include Wofford
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lawyer
Jun 1, 03:21pm
you have done a nice job of showing that the SEC isn't
Bensoncoug
May 31, 04:25pm
And what is the Big12 outside of Texas and OU?
UCB Coug
May 31, 04:28pm
That's why the Big 12 always has a team in the title
cocktosten
May 31, 04:32pm
OSU and TCU
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LanceWArchibald
May 31, 04:35pm
OSU was a great team last year. They're normally a
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cocktosten
May 31, 04:37pm
Not as long as Gundy is there
gustav88
May 31, 06:19pm
Which is exactly how most of the PAC schools are
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White Mamba
May 31, 07:33pm
Oklahoma State should have played for a national title
Douger
May 31, 04:36pm
So if we are going of of history as well, why are USC, UO,
UCB Coug
May 31, 04:45pm
KSU won ten games last year
Douger
May 31, 04:57pm
And was 30-32 the 5 years prior.
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Blue Cat
May 31, 05:03pm
What was Washington the 5 years prior? UCLA?
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Douger
May 31, 05:06pm
RE: What was Washington the 5 years prior? UCLA?
Blue Cat
May 31, 05:17pm
Guy, the Big 12 is better than the PAC.
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Douger
May 31, 05:17pm
Huge difference being in the Big 12 north vs. south
Blue Cat
May 31, 05:20pm
That's not something they have control over.
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Douger
May 31, 05:27pm
Doesn't change the fact they played an easier schedule.
Blue Cat
May 31, 05:48pm
Last year was still a better team than UW or UCLA has had
Douger
May 31, 06:03pm
KSU was not a good team last year.
UCB Coug
May 31, 05:08pm
If you say so.
Douger
May 31, 05:17pm
Good one ...
MormonDevil
May 31, 04:50pm
One game determines the whole thing, right?
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Douger
May 31, 04:55pm
Whatever fits the argument is usually how it works
White Mamba
May 31, 07:42pm
Yeah, the same Missouri team
gustav88
May 31, 06:07pm
signed, Iowa State
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icecougar
Jun 1, 03:18pm
WVU...another very good program
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yalumn96
May 31, 04:39pm
They seem average because they play comparatively tough ...
MormonDevil
May 31, 04:29pm
PAC has played exactly 1 team win it all in forever
lawboy
May 31, 04:35pm
I could be wrong but I think they've been playing 9
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cocktosten
May 31, 04:38pm
USC, Stanford, Oregon, OSU, UW, CU, UU
UCB Coug
May 31, 05:07pm
More impressively, in the past 16 years ...
MormonDevil
May 31, 05:16pm
Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, & LSU all won titles
CaliWG
May 31, 05:25pm
^this^
White Mamba
May 31, 07:32pm
Vols*
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White Mamba
May 31, 07:32pm
Whatever fits the argument is usually how it works
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MormonDevil
May 31, 09:47pm
Utah didn't do that as a PAC school
Douger
May 31, 04:40pm
Pac has a winning record against the SEC over the last
cocktosten
May 31, 04:43pm
It is where it matters most: top of the leagues
lawboy
May 31, 05:00pm
lol. "Take out the 3 BCS contenders and you're average!"
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unsq312
May 31, 04:31pm
The SEC is still heads and shoulders above everybody else
LanceWArchibald
May 31, 04:33pm
Blind test of two programs
Blue Cat
May 31, 04:45pm
No idea but I'm curious to know ...
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MormonDevil
May 31, 04:52pm
Answers.
Blue Cat
May 31, 04:57pm
This is a great point ...
MormonDevil
May 31, 05:09pm
10 years is too long of a time frame
White Mamba
May 31, 07:27pm
Whatever fits the argument is usually how it works
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MormonDevil
May 31, 09:47pm
Another Blind Test.
Blue Cat
May 31, 04:55pm
Answers
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Blue Cat
May 31, 04:59pm
Nice work!
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cocktosten
May 31, 05:15pm
The teams you call the dregs of college football would win
Matthute
Jun 1, 09:50pm
Ya, people are shaking in their boots
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Douger
May 31, 04:34pm
You compared apples to poop- SC: 11-2 (6-2); Cal: 7-6 (4-5)
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unctoothman
Jun 1, 12:50pm
Have you read MormonDevil's responses? You look silly.
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JerrySeinerCoug
May 31, 04:52pm
Yes. He complained of the SEC playing teams like
cougarick
May 31, 09:47pm
Read the posts here. You're getting OWNED!
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JerrySeinerCoug
Jun 1, 01:38pm
You're a cute non-donor.
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cougarick
Jun 1, 09:24pm
So am I!!!!!1111!!!
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Douger
Jun 1, 09:41pm
Yeah, but you're a different kind of cute.
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cougarick
Jun 1, 09:50pm
On the whole, a silly argument. The top SEC teams are out
amadt
Jun 1, 12:34am
This is what I am talking about in terms of bias ...
MormonDevil
Jun 1, 09:15am
LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Arkansas
gustav88
Jun 1, 09:28am
Florida was 7-6 last year and ...
MormonDevil
Jun 1, 10:05am
Those two squads have won 3 titles in the last ten years.
Douger
Jun 1, 10:17am
Completely irrelevant
White Mamba
Jun 1, 01:12pm
What does Florida winning titles in 2006 and 2008 ...
MormonDevil
Jun 1, 04:06pm
If shows the level of committment
Douger
Jun 1, 04:23pm
When was the last time Oregon won a title?
gustav88
Jun 1, 10:23am
SoCal better than Arkansas in 2011?
cougarick
Jun 1, 11:02am
These PAC guys can't call it how it is.
Douger
Jun 1, 11:15am
When you over-identify with a team, you become
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gustav88
Jun 1, 11:22am
By the end of the year USC was better than Arkansas.
cocktosten
Jun 1, 11:57am
No they weren't.
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Douger
Jun 1, 12:20pm
Alabama, Florida, Arkansas, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia
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Douger
Jun 1, 09:28am
The Cocks are playing Georgia late this year
pappabear246
Jun 1, 02:22pm
Not necessarily true on "bowl teams"
stoils
Jun 1, 04:07pm
How dare you even attempt to challenge ...
MormonDevil
Jun 1, 04:17pm
Cal had seven wins last year
Douger
Jun 1, 04:28pm
Exactly. They've figured out a scheduling formula
cocktosten
Jun 1, 04:37pm
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