12-0 Utah as P12 champ vs 11-1 LSU/Bama as SEC #2.....? (icecougar) - CougarBoard.com

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Jun 27, 2012 - 2:51am

icecougar

12-0 Utah as P12 champ vs 11-1 LSU/Bama as SEC #2.....?

....I don't think it's a slam dunk for Utah or any team from the Pac 12. SOS will always be their downfall and I think you're going to find more times than not, the SEC will get their #2 team in ahead of the Pac12 champ, especially when they both have a loss.

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Date

BYU vs Utah's chances of getting into the top 4

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:09am

This is what I've been saying since we went independent.

JamesDean

Jun 26, 09:12am

RE: This is what I've been saying since we went independent.

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:20am

I think BYU is going to wait till all of this shakes out to

JamesDean

Jun 26, 09:24am

They'll need OOC SOS help too

2FarGone

Jun 26, 09:13am

They play Montana Tech (short)

icecougar

Jun 27, 09:55pm

Even in an off year for the Pac, if yewtah goes undeated, (short)

BYU81

Jun 26, 09:21am

I don't think so!

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:24am

name the last time (short)

mosterlow

Jun 26, 09:26am

RE: name the last time

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:30am

possible

mosterlow

Jun 26, 09:34am

RE: possible

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:38am

It's much easier for Utah than BYU in my opinion. (nm)

BYU81

Jun 26, 09:40am

Their are very rarely (if ever) 4 undeafeated teams from

BYU81

Jun 26, 09:35am

You are missing the fact that it is going to be a committee

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:40am

if they had '04's team they could. (nm)

BYU81

Jun 26, 09:41am

I don't think the '04 Utah team could have gone

cocktosten

Jun 26, 09:44am

their 04 team could have won it all (nm)

mosterlow

Jun 26, 09:50am

right, the '04 team played a pretty weak schedule

icecougar

Jun 27, 03:27am

Utah's 2004 SOS was higher than TCU's SOS in 2009 and 2010

BYUMizzou

Jun 27, 06:24am

TCU had some nice wins over good teams

icecougar

Jun 27, 07:51pm

agreed, Utah's chances are slim and none

icecougar

Jun 27, 02:59am

If we were to be playing in the top 4 playoff

UtePimp

Jun 27, 11:03am

name the last time there was a playoff at stake?

icecougar

Jun 27, 02:57am

agreed

mosterlow

Jun 26, 09:25am

BYU isn't going to keep playing WAC teams every year

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:27am

link? (nm)

mosterlow

Jun 26, 09:30am

link to what?

icecougar

Jun 27, 04:04am

It wouldn't take 2 to 3 years of us being undefeated

Jun 26, 09:28am

RLOL!! Utah would ONLY have to go undefeated?!

icecougar

Jun 27, 03:44am

Yeah, most likely (nm)

Jun 26, 09:26am

If Utah goes undefeated they are 100% in. (nm)

cocktosten

Jun 26, 09:31am

and if I bet all my money on Charlotte winning the NBA title

icecougar

Jun 27, 04:22am

If utah goes undefeated they're in. problem is they'll (short)

Government Bailout

Jun 27, 06:20am

"Not so fast my friend"...they went undefeated in '04 and...

icecougar

Jun 27, 07:57pm

obviously, i know they went undefeated twice...thus my point

Government Bailout

Jun 28, 09:21am

I didn't say they would go undefeated in the Pac 12. I just

cocktosten

Jun 27, 08:52am

sorry, it was meant for the main thread. (nm)

Government Bailout

Jun 27, 10:14am

not guaranteed...

icecougar

Jun 27, 08:11pm

It doesn't happen very often

BYUMizzou

Jun 26, 09:34am

agreed

mosterlow

Jun 26, 09:37am

Define much better?

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:43am

well

mosterlow

Jun 26, 09:47am

Okay, you make some good points and for the record

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:51am

true

mosterlow

Jun 26, 09:54am

Not true...

icecougar

Jun 27, 08:22pm

when has Utah ever plowed through a schedule of teams

icecougar

Jun 27, 04:56am

12-0 Utah as P12 champ vs 11-1 LSU/Bama as SEC #2.....?

icecougar

Jun 27, 02:51am

The Committee will favor conference champs

DoseOfReality

Jun 26, 09:30am

RE: The Committee will favor conference champs

Bensoncoug

Jun 26, 09:35am

is it easier to win the lottery if you buy tickets in Calif

icecougar

Jun 27, 04:25am

Depends on BYU's SOS (nm)

Jun 26, 09:41am

I think the Pac champ is 50-50

wapiti

Jun 26, 09:42am

Too bad facts don't support your conclusion

BYUMizzou

Jun 26, 09:47am

SOS was not factored in those years. It will be in 2014 &on.

Undefeated

Jun 26, 10:01am

It absolutely was factored.

Blue Cat

Jun 26, 10:11am

RE: It absolutely was factored.

Undefeated

Jun 26, 12:19pm

How many times will the Pac12 champ get in ahead of SEC #2?

icecougar

Jun 27, 02:44am

In most years the Pac 12 teams have the highest SOS. (nm)

cocktosten

Jun 27, 08:53am

They said that head to head is a factor too. SEC #2 would (short)

scott715

Jun 27, 02:26pm

If BYU can schedule all teams to be top 50 and a couple

scott715

Jun 27, 02:27pm

Higher than SEC champs?!

icecougar

Jun 27, 08:40pm

What is funny actaully, is that Utah in the 2008-09 season

Matthute

Jun 29, 10:40am

One thing to note. Winning against the schedule (short)

Matthute

Jun 29, 10:41am

It is easier for Utah

Remigius

Jun 26, 10:17am

Youre all wrong. Meaningless argument... for now.

canofpicante

Jun 27, 08:30am

This is all they are saying if you ask me.

Matthute

Jun 27, 10:02pm

^^This is correct. If BYU can schedule good teams

OchoZaco

Jun 28, 12:56am

If the Big 12 is heads and shoulders above the PAC

Matthute

Jun 28, 09:38am

Someone asked you? (nm)

spoxjox

Jun 28, 03:29pm

No but someone seems to be stalking me.......

Matthute

Jun 28, 04:02pm

"I am sensing a littel hypocricy" -- written like a yewt.

spoxjox

Jun 28, 04:12pm

No, I will let you "stock" thinks at your job at 7-11. (nm)

Matthute

Jun 29, 09:51am

Well, guess I'd better get back to stocking them thinks. (short)

spoxjox

Jun 29, 10:31am

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