Utah came out for a meeting. The Engineering firm he works for is in SLC. We all went to dinner last night and I asked him if he lived in SLC. He said he just works there but commutes from Ogden. I said that must be a long commute every day. He said, "If you see my house you would understand why I commute every day." He started to talk about how it was nice and he designed it himself. I turned and started talking to the guys from Texas.