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Oct 29, 2012
2:20:57pm
I am not claiming that those titles that occurred 50+ years ago
somehow show that the PAC is more relevant today. Everything that you claimed regarding the NCAA vs NIT is something that I already knew about (even though everything that I have read claims that the NIT was the more prestigious tournament until the early 1950s, so either Utah has an outright championship due to one or the other. Your claim of a co-national champion is sketchy at best). But alas, the history books for NCAA champions are already etched in stone. Meaning that Oregon, Stanford, and even Utah are in the record books and can claim those titles, no matter how hard you or anybody else for that matter wants to take them away.

My point of bringing it up is that it is easy to pick and choose convenient dates and ad hominems to make your side look better.

Your claim is that that PAC 12 is an afterthought when it comes to major college sports. My argument is that your claim is false, due to them being one of the better college football conferences top to bottom. Looking at Sagarin ratings (that use statistical modeling, not some arbitrary and useless information such as number of national champions since 1975, for example) the PAC has been the 2nd best conference overall in football in the last ten years. So if you would like to counter-argue with some other empirical statistical evidence, then I am all ears.
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