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Jan 8, 2013
9:03:20am

FierceArc

BYU isn't going to be elite Dan2. Accept it.

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FierceArc

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I wonder if Bronco will take a hint from Sabin

Dan2

1/8/13 7:22am

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JimmyZ

1/8/13 7:25am

Since Bronco isn't going to look the other way while his players take steroids

BYUtiful

1/8/13 10:12am

Its tough to take steroids with random NCAA drug tests

Cougarlove

1/8/13 2:42pm

Actually, it's not tough at all; and tests are anything but "random"

BYUtiful

1/9/13 12:46am

I wondered about this during the championship game where one team was bigger,

tony

1/9/13 2:03am

You know he won't.

WJCougar

1/8/13 7:27am

What do you think Bronco has been doing since the bowl game?

1/8/13 7:27am

He's been in Hawaii.

checoug

1/8/13 7:28am

And Saban doesn't take vacations?

1/8/13 7:30am

My folks have a home by Nick Saban's lake house, we see him there all the

Banjo

1/8/13 7:43am

Saban had enough time for a cameo appearance

Seasider

1/8/13 8:34am

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JimmyZ

1/8/13 7:29am

In other words, nobody has a clue.

1/8/13 7:30am

He has probably been getting home be three to get a break from having to stay

gwill

1/8/13 7:40am

Agree with everything you said

checoug

1/8/13 7:28am

Even if he puts in Sabin like effort....

WJCougar

1/8/13 7:29am

But it could have gotten us to a BCS bowl by now.

mr_thekid

1/8/13 2:31pm

You know, its not the time and effort. You know that right?

bald man

1/8/13 7:31am

Seriously?

checoug

1/8/13 7:34am

Can you sit there and with a straight face tell me that a professional

bald man

1/8/13 7:47am

He has publicly said it

checoug

1/8/13 7:58am

Everytime the anti bronco cite some quote its always out of context and

bald man

1/8/13 8:02am

This. Bronco quotes get stretched to the point of incomprehension.

TexasCoug

1/8/13 8:30am

Then answer this. Why would Bronco make such a statement at all?

CougFanInWA

1/8/13 11:43am

Why did Lou Holtz always poor mouth his own team?

TexasCoug

1/8/13 11:52am

I think you mean "can't understand reality."

CougFanInWA

1/8/13 11:58am

a pig will always find mud to wallow in.

bald man

1/8/13 11:59am

Re-read what I said

checoug

1/8/13 8:36am

He trusted Doman, it turns out he shouldn't. Thus Doman is gone.

bald man

1/8/13 8:51am

and add to your comment ...

ManicBlue

1/8/13 9:08am

So Bronco just threw that out there

checoug

1/8/13 9:14am

He has his reasons ... you just don't understand them

ManicBlue

1/8/13 9:21am

Ding! Ding! Ding!

BluePete

1/8/13 9:39am

Oh brother

checoug

1/8/13 12:47pm

BYU can't get the players to be NC contenders... the end.

FierceArc

1/8/13 9:04am

They did in 1984!

ilnati

1/8/13 10:15am

And almost did it again in '96 and '01.

BluePete

1/8/13 10:21am

Nope... those years they would not have gone. Did you forget that in '96 they

FierceArc

1/8/13 9:59pm

Its called the Perfect Storm ! > And it is possible !

BYU DUDE 1984

1/8/13 10:46am

Remember our loss to Air Force in 2010? We had more talented players, but they

BabyOx

1/8/13 4:43pm

Mostly it means having Alabama's players.

TexasCoug

1/8/13 7:28am

I would mostly agree

checoug

1/8/13 7:30am

Bronco could do better... He chooses not to.

kotacoug

1/8/13 7:31am

More time doesn't necessarily = better

1/8/13 7:33am

I think it's safe to say that the program is NO WHERE close to the point

kotacoug

1/8/13 7:44am

Baloney!

1/8/13 7:46am

you are delusional....you can not replace reps with efficiency no matter

kotacoug

1/8/13 7:51am

And how many reps does BYU put in compared to other teams?

1/8/13 7:55am

That is so wrong. If you don't have the coaching chops to begin with, more time

bald man

1/8/13 7:54am

+1

doubled1981

1/8/13 12:00pm

I disagree. I think he is doing the BEST he knows how

WhiteKnight

1/8/13 7:54am

Along with 119 other D-1 teams apparently...

TexasCoug

1/8/13 8:24am

Exactly! The sheer volume of fantastic players at Alabama makes a huge

bald man

1/8/13 7:32am

Conversely, Alabama has a dozen or more players youve never heard

RalphWiggam

1/8/13 7:45am

Yes but you have to start somewhere. Success breeds success

Dan2

1/8/13 7:45am

+1

kotacoug

1/8/13 8:12am

Bronco has said one of his criteria to recruiting is level of success

bald man

1/8/13 8:15am

Maybe offense, but defense?? Defense has risen since Bronco took over DC duties

FierceArc

1/8/13 9:08am

correct

Burninator

1/8/13 8:14am

give me a break

chazen

1/8/13 9:03am

sorry. was intended as response to main post

chazen

1/8/13 9:23am

4-star recruits as a baseline would be nice.

sheriffcreg

1/8/13 10:36am

it amazes me how you guys keep think Bronco is an idiot or incompetent.

bald man

1/8/13 7:29am

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JimmyZ

1/8/13 7:30am

He already does mix with the Pharisees and Sadducees of cougar club.

bald man

1/8/13 7:31am

No he doesn't. His usual is to deliver his speech, try to avoid questions after

JamesDean

1/8/13 7:53am

oh, I'm never there, so I wouldn't know.

bald man

1/8/13 8:11am

No he surfs actual waves

checoug

1/8/13 7:32am

Who cares. Volume of time is not the determining factor on success.

bald man

1/8/13 7:33am

and he cares about it a whole lot more than we do.

Belboz

1/8/13 7:38am

They start off with the delusion that all of BYU's players are another Ziggy

BluePete

1/8/13 7:39am

Do you think BYU gets everything they possibly can out of players

kotacoug

1/8/13 7:48am

thus we are seeing coaching changes, and conditioning changes.

bald man

1/8/13 7:50am

Currently, not on offense. BYU has historically used a combination of

BluePete

1/8/13 8:01am

You nailed it. I wished they used more practice time, but gee, we

bald man

1/8/13 7:49am

Well now you're bringing in the competency of our coaches which I agree with you

kotacoug

1/8/13 8:11am

Practice doesn't make perfect. It just makes it permanent.

bald man

1/8/13 8:12am

That makes perfect sense why he had fewer pactices if he already

BluePete

1/8/13 8:26am

but spending more time doing something right.... helps

kotacoug

1/8/13 8:36am

Which is why his D is so good. Unfortunately, the O just wasn't

bald man

1/8/13 8:38am

I am just as amazed that fans can look at the last 3 years and not doubt BM

byutx

1/8/13 8:31am

I'm not a Bronco can do no wrong guy. He made mistakes in hiring.

bald man

1/8/13 8:37am

You can respect the man, which I question, but you can't respect recent results

byutx

1/8/13 8:42am

Indeed, thus Bronco getting a new OC. The offense has stunk. He knows it.

bald man

1/8/13 8:51am

LOI day is just 4 weeks away, so of course they will start working

Indy Coug

1/8/13 7:39am

Saban only used 12 of his 15 allowed practices for ND...

TheKing

1/8/13 8:06am

Link? If true, that needs to be its own thread.

SausageKingOfChicago

1/8/13 8:08am

Here you go

TheKing

1/8/13 8:12am

There was actually some criticism before the game about that.

TexasCoug

1/8/13 8:23am

LOL. That. Is. Awesome. So much for half of CB's favorite Bronco criticism

WhiteKnight

1/8/13 8:13am

Actually no - this only confirms the criticism

OGSuperfan

1/8/13 8:25am

We won our bowl game too.

1/8/13 8:47am

I wasn't talking JUST the practices leading up to the bowl game

OGSuperfan

1/8/13 1:40pm

examples of basic X's and O's problems?

WhiteKnight

1/8/13 4:47pm

Really need a defininition of X's and O's?

OGSuperfan

1/9/13 10:12am

How the original post is leading potd and this one isn't is vintage cougarboard

palangi

1/8/13 8:57am

Well said. It's the reason why, IMO, college coaches don't make good nfl coaches

macaroni

1/8/13 9:52am

Bronco wasn't watching last night, but he seems to do pretty well on D..

SausageKingOfChicago

1/8/13 8:07am

u hope Bronco makes more cliche coaching statements about getting back to work?

Ft Worth Cougar

1/8/13 8:16am

I generally agree with this statement

SausageKingOfChicago

1/8/13 8:23am

Ha, Ha, that's funny. Yeah, I came into work early this morning and told my

DapperDave

1/8/13 9:12am

Why do you think the coaches and players are doing nothing?

pygmalion

1/8/13 8:33am

Don't confuse the uneducated with education. They hate Bronco...

TexasCoug

1/8/13 8:35am

Pwned!

Indy Coug

1/8/13 8:36am

Why do you think it bodes well for the coaches if they're doing as much work

byutx

1/8/13 8:38am

Keep moving those goalposts around

1/8/13 8:46am

RE: Why do you think it bodes well for the coaches if they're doing as much work

pygmalion

1/8/13 8:55am

Win more. And stop saying stupid stuff.

byutx

1/8/13 9:06am

Maybe it is the hearer that is stupid.

1/8/13 9:28am

+ A billion

TexasCoug

1/8/13 9:31am

RE: Maybe it is the hearer that is stupid.

ManicBlue

1/8/13 9:57am

Said the guy who doesn't regret keeping RN in vs. BSU all those snaps

byutx

1/8/13 10:36am

RE: Said the guy who doesn't regret keeping RN in vs. BSU all those snaps

ManicBlue

1/8/13 10:40am

Yours was a Bronco quote. I was referring to Bronco

byutx

1/8/13 10:51am

ah .. right. That's why I modified my post. Thanks.

ManicBlue

1/8/13 10:58am

You really don't think BM has said stupid things?

byutx

1/8/13 10:35am

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BluePete

1/8/13 10:39am

Perhaps, but they become infinitely stupider once run through the CB filter

1/8/13 12:05pm

The stupid things Bronco says I've heard directly from him on KSL

byutx

1/8/13 12:20pm

I have first hand knowledge of a player being in Hawaii

donnerstag

1/8/13 10:43am

What? This is an outrage! Players shouldn't be allowed to go to Hawaii with a

DapperDave

1/8/13 11:00am

I think he should lose his scholarship

kkf

1/8/13 11:02am

nope

pygmalion

1/8/13 11:03am

It sounds like you are drawing conclusions with little evidence to support them

donnerstag

1/8/13 11:17am

I dunno....

pygmalion

1/8/13 11:24am

That gives you just one point of reference

donnerstag

1/8/13 11:38am

You assume that BYU's athletes NEVER talk with athletes from other schools...

BluePete

1/8/13 11:43am

I was a track athlete at BYU

donnerstag

1/8/13 11:50am

Plenty of "immediate family" members on various BYU teams here...

BluePete

1/8/13 11:54am

So then you can compare and contrast the programs of 2-3 schools

donnerstag

1/8/13 11:58am

Get right on that...run fast like a bunny and prove a CBer's opinion wrong.

BluePete

1/8/13 12:04pm

My intent wasn't to prove right or wrong

donnerstag

1/8/13 12:13pm

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DapperDave

1/8/13 12:03pm

You came up with this conclusion how?

donnerstag

1/8/13 12:07pm

Of course. Step 1 - I read your posts. Step 2 - There is no step 2!

DapperDave

1/8/13 12:13pm

You're an irrational thinker

donnerstag

1/8/13 12:15pm

It's true, yet I can still spot from a mile away an overinvested fan

DapperDave

1/8/13 12:22pm

You know what, my bad, I'm not an irrational thinker, just a stupid one. I

DapperDave

1/8/13 12:47pm

No worries;)

donnerstag

1/8/13 1:47pm

I never said BYU football works harder

pygmalion

1/8/13 12:10pm

You are casting your pearls before swine...

TexasCoug

1/8/13 12:18pm

I know

pygmalion

1/8/13 12:27pm

I do it all the time...just from a common sense perspective, not an insider...

TexasCoug

1/8/13 12:33pm

LOL. I haven't followed this whole thread because it's way too long.

mr_thekid

1/8/13 2:45pm

Even atheists use that figure of speech.

TexasCoug

1/8/13 2:59pm

Nice try, I'm an "out-of-stater."

mr_thekid

1/8/13 4:32pm

Then you have probably heard it as well.

TexasCoug

1/8/13 4:44pm

I appreciate the post

donnerstag

1/8/13 12:26pm

yes, everyone shows up

pygmalion

1/8/13 12:43pm

good to hear

donnerstag

1/8/13 12:48pm

Tell us about your point of reference.

Ssebo

1/8/13 1:51pm

I already did. You missed it.

donnerstag

1/8/13 1:57pm

Let me play devil's advocate:

DapperDave

1/8/13 9:00am

^^^A Fantastic Post^^^

grosven

1/8/13 11:48am

Yes great post

Cougarlove

1/8/13 4:11pm

BYU isn't going to be elite Dan2. Accept it.

FierceArc

1/8/13 9:03am

Why do you think ND was just hoping and praying and not practicing?

Florwood

1/8/13 9:07am

Saban also kept referring to his UNIVERSITY as an organization

fish_tacos

1/8/13 9:34am

What do you expect him to say?

HiLife

1/8/13 10:06am

couldn't agree more

fish_tacos

1/8/13 10:24am

I wonder if CB will take a hint from Sabin

Magyar_CougAZ

1/8/13 9:47am

The assumptions made here are astounding. How stupid do you think

PhilPete

1/8/13 10:08am

I don't think BM is stupid. I think he's lacking in smarts, humility. But people

byutx

1/8/13 10:37am

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donnerstag

1/8/13 10:38am

I think the fact Alabama gets all the best players helps Sabans cause

kkf

1/8/13 10:44am

This post sucks.

grosven

1/8/13 11:38am

"Praying doesn't cut it. Ask Notre Dame" LOL

bluegato

1/8/13 12:35pm

They aren't all way over 300 pounds

CoopDizz

1/8/13 12:37pm

This is why I love Nick Saban

StalwartBraveTrue

1/8/13 2:05pm

RE: I wonder if Bronco will take a hint from Sabin

JCBYU

1/8/13 3:07pm

Good call. Remember the Jones v. McCarron "fight"?

BabyOx

1/8/13 4:38pm

Nominated

checoug

1/8/13 10:27pm

Good post

Heinz57

1/9/13 10:30am

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