And the defender can initiate contact, but then it can no longer be offensive PI

Jan 10, 2017
10:21:45am

jdub All-American

The defender initiated contact, wrapped his arm around the offensive player, and the o-player went down. It was a pick, but it wasn't offensive PI. Sorry, windward, it is pretty clear from the replays that YOU posted.

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Wow, so I yell out to a Bama co-worker that just walked in, "Sorry about the

SJBLUE

1/10/17 8:03am

We were 9-4 and received votes in the final AP poll. Hope that helps if you need a rebuttal later.

LiveCoug

1/10/17 8:06am

Without paying players either.

Ojiisan

1/10/17 8:25am

So what- Every year as BYU fans we know next year might be the year. AL doesn't

SouthernBlueBlood

1/10/17 8:07am

You can just say, "well, we won the last game that we played."

ByuMba90

1/10/17 8:08am

Honestly he has a right to be upset. Those non-calls on the pick plays were

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 8:09am

On 1 pick play. There were also plenty of non calls on Alabama that Clemson

Littlerich

1/10/17 8:11am

Uhh, watch the replays. They were screwed twice.

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 8:14am

I agree with the first one. On the second the DB initiated contact which then

Littlerich

1/10/17 8:16am

exactly, the DB is the one who grabs the receiver and pulls him infront of his

Skywalker11

1/10/17 8:18am

Even if the DB didn't initiate contact, and the WR did... He's within 5 yds, and

BW84

1/10/17 8:25am

Guarantee you that's called 99% of the time in the NFL

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 8:52am

I guarantee you this was a college, not an NFL, game

jdub

1/10/17 8:59am

I'm guessing you didn't read your own link. It explains why they weren't flagged

jdub

1/10/17 8:18am

I posted because it has clear video evidence. I don't agree with the article

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 8:23am

So, despite the explanation that shows it wasn't an penalty

jdub

1/10/17 8:37am

The rules state that if WRs block more than a yard downfield before ball is

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 8:58am

Can you post me the rule?

jdub

1/10/17 8:59am

Here are more people that disagree with you, and they reference the rule

jdub

1/10/17 9:07am

Sure

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 9:20am

So, you started out by actually NOT stating the rule, but by quoting

jdub

1/10/17 9:39am

The defender has a right to stand his ground. If a receiver runs into him he can

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 9:51am

He can stand his ground, he can't grab the WR/TE. This is the distinction

Littlerich

1/10/17 9:57am

And the defender can initiate contact, but then it can no longer be offensive PI

jdub

1/10/17 10:21am

Clemson sold it well, but I still think it's offensive PI because the TE

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 10:27am

Agreed that it is a rule, but don't agree on the application.

RebelScum

1/10/17 9:14am

They weren't screwed twice. They should have played better.

kalifi

1/10/17 8:25am

and the targeting non-calls from early in the game?

Tokolosh

1/10/17 8:11am

Seriously!!

wilsdad

1/10/17 8:12am

Those were also ridiculous. The refs were terrible, but you can't allow

Windward_Coug

1/10/17 8:17am

You also cant miss 2 blatant targeting penalties that would lead to 2 ejected

califcougar

1/10/17 8:50am

AMEN. There were two plays with textbook examples of targeting and neither was

cucciolo25

1/10/17 8:15am

And the defensive PI's. Bama fans have nothing to complain about with the refs

AndyDwyer

1/10/17 8:18am

Exactly. 2 HUGE no calls

jkccoug

1/10/17 9:23am

if their qb could complete more than 30% of his passes...

Mayor of Cougartown

1/10/17 8:13am

I don't think so. Here's a good explanation (someone else posted it last night)

AndyDwyer

1/10/17 8:16am

As part of their defensive strategy, Alabama DBs were making contact with the

RebelScum

1/10/17 8:31am

He makes a great point about the defense causing the contact first, which gives

Mizzou-Blue

1/10/17 8:36am

I buy the explanation on the final play (I don't think it was illegal at all).

OPINIONS

1/10/17 8:38am

If those plays are what has you all riled up, then I don't know what to tell ya

Frank Castiglione

1/10/17 8:32am

Bama had their own issues. 2 obvious targeting penalties that would have put th

jkccoug

1/10/17 9:22am

Nope. Just good football.

Unibro

1/10/17 9:27am

You can't be serious

Heinz57

1/10/17 8:40pm

We successfully aged our players, is how we did

Bob Vance

1/10/17 8:22am

At some point today you need to catch him walking side by side with another

dilbert

1/10/17 8:24am

Follow-up - I go into his office and say, I know you probably don't want to talk

SJBLUE

1/10/17 8:44am

Be careful when you mock a Bama fan after a loss!

Cougar Insider

1/10/17 8:39am

Yikes! The thing is that I was honestly not trying to mock him. I was shocked

SJBLUE

1/10/17 8:51am

But sounds like you have a history with this guy

PortlandBlue

1/10/17 8:46am

You would think, right? No negative history - always complementary conversations

SJBLUE

1/10/17 8:56am

"We didn't win the national championship either."

Florwood

1/10/17 8:53am

"Second place is the first loser"

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