I always liked that Bronco didn't just talk in sports cliches like most coaches.

Jan 12, 2017
4:45:35pm

keoki Contributor

I guess the flak Bronco got for his openness, is one of the main reasons most coaches just stick to the cliches. But it sure makes listening to them uninteresting to any fan who's been around a few years.

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So is Rose ........ Bronco?

gurt

1/12/17 1:23am

Outside of 2-3 years in the history of BYU basketball, the program and team have

cougarnerd

1/12/17 1:53am

List the coaches who have won 20 plus games every year in the last 10 years?

BigYfan

1/12/17 5:34am

And basically no other accomplishments

Y4LYFE

1/12/17 6:21am

what? he has a Sweet 16, multiple conference championships, NIT final 4

BigYfan

1/12/17 8:18am

The sweet16 is great-- NIT final 4 is meh imo

acougfan

1/12/17 8:26am

BYU has the worst NCAA tourney record in the country, a 1st round loss hurts BYU

Dissenter

1/12/17 9:08am

For those that go to the NCAA...could be worse.

Fdnman

1/12/17 9:10am

So are you going to quantify that...

BigYfan

1/12/17 9:34am

most appearances without a final four bid. So... we've been mediocre for decades

Dissenter

1/12/17 12:47pm

IOW "I was talking out my yewt and you forced me to make it less dramatic than

Cougarpolis

1/12/17 1:03pm

We have a negative stat that we make worse by our repeated one and dones

Dissenter

1/12/17 1:54pm

Better than not going imo

acougfan

1/12/17 11:30am

So basically you agree with me.

cougarnerd

1/12/17 9:06am

Yes, I was agreeing with you!

BigYfan

1/12/17 9:35am

A key distinction is I think Bronco's recruiting slipped for a couple of

gwalker

1/12/17 1:56am

Dave's recruiting also suffered as well.

Y'zFan

1/12/17 7:09am

Have you seen our future pipeline? We just

OC Coug

1/12/17 9:36am

Future pipeline includes

BigYfan

1/12/17 9:40am

Sorry bro - those guys are in the existing pipeline, I am talking the future

OC Coug

1/12/17 10:03am

What? Those are guys who are on missions and in high school...

BigYfan

1/12/17 10:11am

Uh yes it does, jeez no wonder BYU gets in the roster bind its in now with a

OC Coug

1/12/17 11:37am

So, you're worried about recruiting classes 8 years in the future?

Y Mountain

1/12/17 12:15pm

RE: Uh yes it does, jeez no wonder BYU gets in the roster bind its in now with a

BigYfan

1/12/17 12:44pm

We have heard the same thing about young teams and growing pains for 10+ years.

BYUtka

1/12/17 3:29pm

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Gerald-DeGroot

1/12/17 2:33am

Yep, just more likeable.

byu_coug

1/12/17 5:37am

Just shows you how easy it is to bank a lot of goodwill capital by not being

Iman23

1/12/17 6:14am

I would argue Rose is a bigger "robot" than Bronco was.

byu_coug

1/12/17 8:17am

I always liked that Bronco didn't just talk in sports cliches like most coaches.

keoki

1/12/17 4:45pm

Recruiting I think has been Rose's achilles heel

Seasider

1/12/17 5:41am

5 thumbs down. Tough crowd this morning.

Seasider

1/12/17 7:00am

I've also wondered why we don't look outside the USA for players

Oldcougfan

1/12/17 7:21am

BYU's had 3 top 40 recruiting classes in the last 4 years

Indy Coug

1/12/17 8:28am

People underestimate the effect that the mission age change had on recruiting

CougarVeteran

1/12/17 8:35am

I have been saying it for years. Bronco and Rose are the same.

BYUtka

1/12/17 6:27am

Thoughtful post with many points that I agree with. However, there is one HUGE

pistol12

1/12/17 7:02am

Agree 100%. As much as people may not want to admit, that game affects the

westsidecoug

1/12/17 7:33am

I think this depends on which portion of the fanbase you are referring to. I

chilango

1/12/17 9:51am

As someone living outside Utah I have the luxury of dismissing this for all but

MormonThug

1/12/17 9:57am

RE: So is Rose ........ Bronco?

Bigfancoug

1/12/17 7:08am

Reid and Majerus were both excellent Xs and Os coaches. It was a

ALUF 1990

1/12/17 8:01am

This is a really good post, ALUF 1990 - one comment on Larry K - it was a coward

Blue streak

1/12/17 4:10pm

Axing the BYU game was motivated by a desire to diminish BYU. I think Larry

ALUF 1990

1/12/17 5:47pm

Amen to Hill retiring. That man has been nothing but toxic to the rivalry.

westsidecoug

1/13/17 7:58am

Yep. Hard to imagine hatred between Kyle & Kilani. Their wives wouldn't allow

ALUF 1990

1/13/17 8:14am

Glad you used the word wuss and not sissy.

Wear Blue

1/13/17 1:06am

Yep. Just with better PR

byu1

1/12/17 7:18am

Does it not bother any of you that you agree with Monson?

Cougarpolis

1/12/17 7:59am

I said it long before he did.

BYUtka

1/12/17 8:14am

So if I kind of have the same opinion as Monson, I should be bothered?

RaggaeCoug

1/12/17 9:16am

I don't care how you' d feel. I'd be bothered though.

Cougarpolis

1/12/17 1:08pm

It's likely Monson copied our thoughts actually. Look, I'm very happy with what

Ash

1/12/17 9:52am

Bronco > Rose, but they are somewhat similar in that they will not get you to

BDAWG

1/12/17 8:00am

PK opined that Rose is Whittingham,

Florwood

1/12/17 8:50am

i had the same thought about Bronco. The ceiling could get a little higher but

MormonThug

1/12/17 9:59am

This is a much better comparison

Remigius

1/12/17 10:58am

Rose has had a higher peak than Bronco, and in terms of percentages,

Gentleman Stan

1/12/17 9:13am

I generally agree with your post, but not with the NY6 vs. Sweet 16 comparison.

Blue Cat

1/12/17 11:12am

In the first three years of the

Gentleman Stan

1/12/17 6:03pm

For hoops, I was calculating BYU's chance

Blue Cat

1/12/17 8:54pm

RE: For hoops, I was calculating BYU's chance

Gentleman Stan

1/12/17 10:09pm

Fire Rose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adrielle

1/12/17 10:48am

It's a bit ridiculous. One coach in BYU history has a higher win percentage

Colorado

1/12/17 11:04am

You are going to "really hold Rose accountable" this year for the first time?

teancum

1/12/17 11:54am

Things are trending differently this season...

icecougar

1/12/17 12:59pm

Or maybe this is just BYU athletics, regardless of the coach.

keylimesoda

1/12/17 3:09pm

Truly fascinated by the response to this post

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