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Mar 19, 2017
11:01:42pm

CosmoK All-American

Are you saying BYU is likely to win more?

I get that Frank and Jabari didn't have great tourney success. But it's a statistical obviousness that Duke is more likely to win NCAA tourney games, compared to BYU.

I think its reasonable to argue NBA potential is individual and less related to school. I'm not sure what numbers show there.

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I'm always surprised when kids like Jackson make the mistake of going to a

DetmerForever

3/19/17 10:42pm

It's all about the NBA for Mr. Jackson....Coach K can get him there much easier

beauso79

3/19/17 10:44pm

The NBA finds talent no matter where it is. Dumb reason to go to Duke.

DetmerForever

3/19/17 10:45pm

Talent develops faster under better coaches

beauso79

3/19/17 10:47pm

Better coaches is debatable

wapiti

3/19/17 10:51pm

Lol. No it's not.

dwhitebud

3/19/17 11:01pm

Looks like coach K has lost it. All that talent and he can't get to the Sweet 16

Rocketman

3/20/17 1:55am

If not TIC, this may be the dumbest post ever on CB

El Pasco

3/20/17 10:37am

I'm not convinced he isn't also the OP using two profiles.

Thug Mormons

3/20/17 11:23am

No. That's against the rules.

wapiti

3/20/17 11:40am

Jabari Parker's reason. See the last sentence

dratax

3/20/17 7:54am

This is a joke right?

TheLoneCougar

3/20/17 8:00am

I disagree entirely. Would Jimmer have been lottery outside of BYU? Araujo? No.

runnincoug

3/19/17 10:49pm

Except there a few schools that NBA scouts just drool over

mudpupper

3/20/17 8:31am

I'm pretty sure that NBA scouts knew about Frank when he was a high school jr.

wjman11

3/19/17 11:24pm

Ummmmm... Do you know how many NBA scouts were at BYU @ Gonzaga?

COACHdrn

3/20/17 6:12am

Do you know how many NBA scouts are at MOST Duke games?

beauso79

3/20/17 7:02am

Is Frank even transfer material?

3/19/17 10:45pm

There is no reason for him to leave duke as the starting pg and come to our

Stucoug83

3/19/17 11:03pm

Odds of NCAA wins, NBA career, all favor Duke.

CosmoK

3/19/17 10:45pm

Odds of finding an LDS wife and being a star favor BYU

DetmerForever

3/19/17 10:46pm

Yes.

CosmoK

3/19/17 10:58pm

This is basketball, not gospel man

Shteve

3/19/17 10:59pm

Bryce harper did ok for himself. High profile mormons won't have a problem

Stucoug83

3/19/17 11:06pm

Bryce Harper married his high school girlfriend.

3/20/17 6:41am

Mark Madsen is an example of this not happening. He only recently got married.

3/20/17 1:50pm

So you're saying he still got married? Great. Confirms its not an issue

Shteve

3/20/17 2:24pm

I don't understand this... Big Fish small pond at Duke, not a fish out of water

(Private)

3/20/17 5:36am

There is a pretty good singles ward down there actually.

conetah

3/20/17 7:02am

It was pretty bad IMO.

nc-puma

3/20/17 7:14am

Yeah, the NCAA wins have been so much better. Jabari and Frank both out of the tourney in the first weekend.

sakhr

3/19/17 10:48pm

Are you saying BYU is likely to win more?

CosmoK

3/19/17 11:01pm

I think if you have NBA talent you'll get there no matter where you go. It has been proven countless times.

sakhr

3/19/17 11:35pm

This is true.

travelcoug

3/19/17 11:48pm

There is a BIG difference between developing talent and just showing off talent. I agree that the NBA (and NFL, etc.)

Game Changer

3/20/17 12:21am

As if Jimmer had NBA talent when he came to BYU? Yet he became a top 10 pick. Steph Curry was the same way at Davidson.

sakhr

3/20/17 12:47am

Very true arguments, but think if Jimmer had Coach K teach him some Defense

MagicHappen$

3/20/17 2:50am

I love Jimmer, but his lack of defense is squarely on him at this point. He had 4 full seasons in the NBA to learn it.

sakhr

3/20/17 10:59am

Not when you control for recruiting ranking

wapiti

3/19/17 10:53pm

CoachK is a better coach, but based on Jimmer and Araujo Rose has a better

DetmerForever

3/19/17 10:52pm

He might be

wapiti

3/19/17 10:54pm

Duke didn't always have that. Coach K built that program.

dwhitebud

3/19/17 11:21pm

Araujo had an offer from Kentucky when he committed to us. He was a big recruit

ayfan

3/19/17 10:59pm

And he doesn't lose to UVU at home

crm48

3/19/17 10:54pm

He serving a Jimmer mission, or did he plan to serve after his first year?

ocmyhome

3/19/17 10:56pm

We do remember that it is Duke? One of the top 5 hoops teams in the last 25

Stucoug83

3/19/17 11:01pm

No one says Duke is a bad choice, I'm just saying it's not the best choice

DetmerForever

3/19/17 11:15pm

You never said why BYU would be a better choice

CFMcK

3/19/17 11:37pm

I understand what yoh are trying to say, but Frank didn't finish middle of the

Stucoug83

3/20/17 6:56am

Um did I read that right? You don't honestly think South Carolina would be in

CougarBacker

3/19/17 11:02pm

He's talking about their first round matchup against Troy

wjman11

3/19/17 11:04pm

No you didn't read that right. Try again.

DetmerForever

3/19/17 11:05pm

Forget basketball, a Duke degree vs. a BYU degree.

Cougtruth

3/19/17 11:17pm

Not for certain degrees. But yes, in general, I believe that's the case.

RebelScum

3/19/17 11:49pm

Purely out of curiosity, can you name any degree or field in which BYU would be considered more prestigious than Duke?

Game Changer

3/20/17 12:17am

Accounting.

Shteve

3/20/17 12:23am

And it's not even close.

Bgash

3/20/17 6:10am

Duke doesn't offer an accounting degree (undergrad)

SurreyDad

3/20/17 7:30am

It's still true to the point. If you want to study those things, BYU is better.

Bgash

3/20/17 10:03am

Completely agree. But that's not what I was responding to.

SurreyDad

3/20/17 12:55pm

Accounting and Entrepreneurship come right to mind.

RebelScum

3/20/17 12:41am

Public relations would be another, but I'm not sure Duke offers that. But BYU's

RebelScum

3/20/17 12:49am

Rank was probably the wrong word in ^ this ^ post. Intended to mean among the

RebelScum

3/20/17 12:53am

Oh, and don't forget LDS studies.

RebelScum

3/20/17 12:53am

I would guess that BYU's language departments are probably just as good, if not better, than Duke's, due to missions

Game Changer

3/20/17 6:31pm

Also Animation, and anything with Television/Broadcasting.

ayfan

3/20/17 3:16am

Advertising

3/20/17 6:25am

Those two semesters for Jabari will really give him a leg up in life

Ulysses14

3/20/17 4:47am

I'm sure he feels like a fool. He could be celebrating 3rd place in WCC and a first-round loss in the NIT right now.

Game Changer

3/19/17 11:18pm

But we beat Gonzaga!

CFMcK

3/19/17 11:38pm

What would BYU have been with him?

SaintGeorgeYFan

3/20/17 12:51am

A 10 seed.

3/20/17 6:44am

Lol

CFMcK

3/20/17 1:00pm

I'm missing why you're surprised

CFMcK

3/19/17 11:24pm

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kccougar3

3/19/17 11:35pm

How much fun did it look like haws, emery and Mika were having this year?

kccougar3

3/19/17 11:39pm

Would not say it's a mistake, but his chances of being drafted do not increase going to Duke

Adrielle

3/20/17 5:59am

He went to a better program. That's the end of it.

Y4LYFE

3/20/17 6:13am

Winning the ACC tourney probably felt good. Playing in the top conference

cougarfuzz

3/20/17 7:10am

My heavens BYU fans can be very ignorant.

RaggaeCoug

3/20/17 8:17am

You serious, Clark?

Thug Mormons

3/20/17 8:35am

I agree with you, but you do know that Duke didn't win the title last year right

CougarBacker

3/20/17 10:19am

Thanks for the correction, I meant to update it and finish my thought by saying

Thug Mormons

3/20/17 11:22am

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