trading IT. Basically saying it makes sense to do it but don't count on it. Then they discussed that there is no chance Hayward is leaving Utah. Both of them were laughing at the idea of him leaving a good Jazz team as the alpha to go to a good Celtics team to be the 3rd guy, assuming they trade the #1 for Butler or George. Said they aren't much better than Utah if they just add Hayward and keep the #1.

Both thought it was highly unlikely he leaves Utah.

Not that their opinions matter at all.