Our locker room has obviously had some issues for a few years now.

Jul 18, 2017
10:25:10am

mantis mutu All-American

Frank seemed like a good BYU fit -- but Provo can be a lonely place for an outsider, particularly when things ain't goin well.

I really hope Rose & Schroyer nip that in the bud this year.

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So I just heard on Criddle's show that the Chatman daughter who is an RM and was

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 2:44am

don't know about that, but I know we know how to jump to conclusions.

Cougarpolis

7/17/17 5:08am

Ok they didn't get pissed off.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 5:49am

I won't expect the Chatmans to send another kid to BYU for sports.

ColdFusion1989

7/17/17 12:09pm

I will say this

Richw

7/17/17 5:58am

Your observations are correct

NorthwestCoug

7/17/17 6:27am

We as a fan base need to be more honest about rose....

idacoug

7/17/17 6:41am

I thought it was the law school not Rose.

Freddie Cougar

7/17/17 6:43am

I'm sure three is more to the issue.

idacoug

7/17/17 6:47am

There is

NorthwestCoug

7/17/17 6:47am

In Coach Rose's defense....I take that back, Rose doesn't like defense.

84 Grad

7/17/17 7:03am

Not saying I agree with your post... But that deserved a good laugh.

LeGrande One

7/17/17 10:46am

Thanks, I meant it in good fun.

84 Grad

7/17/17 11:11am

Chatman chose to leave...pretty clear. He was not run off

wisconsincougs

7/17/17 7:10am

evidence?

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 7:44am

Where is the evidence he was run off?

Northern Blue

7/17/17 1:55pm

you said it's pretty clear he chose to leave. where is the evidence.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 5:52pm

Timing plus connections. You don't run someone off in June with no options

wisconsincougs

7/17/17 10:48pm

So did I, until I saw one of our football players is being allowed to do law school and football.

indocoug

7/17/17 7:01am

Football is very different. The season is shorter and there are only six or

Freddie Cougar

7/17/17 7:13am

How people bought that story I don't know, he don't enroll in law school at BC

Graig Swame

7/17/17 8:12am

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ the whole thing is suspicious

ColonelMustard7

7/17/17 1:01pm

BC Law school is harder to get in.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 1:03pm

lol.

Plato

7/17/17 1:40pm

Just to be clear. Jordan is not in BC Law school right now. You know that right?

ColdFusion1989

7/17/17 5:30pm

That's the point. He might have gotten into BYU and not BC Law.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 5:54pm

Chatman is in B school at BC not law school. So that wasn't it.

Turnpike Lane

7/17/17 7:21am

So he changed his mind. At the time, he wanted to go to law school and they

Freddie Cougar

7/17/17 7:23am

That is definitely what was released officially. But that's rarely the whole

Epileptic Beagle

7/17/17 7:46am

LOL, did Chatman contradict the "official" story?

Freddie Cougar

7/17/17 9:41am

I'm a little confused. Do you really think that everything that comes out of

Epileptic Beagle

7/17/17 10:04am

Of course not, but if that was a false story you don't think the Chatmans

Freddie Cougar

7/17/17 12:48pm

Here's a story from the Boston Globe where Jordan confirms the story

Freddie Cougar

7/17/17 12:51pm

LOL

Epileptic Beagle

7/17/17 12:56pm

RE: LOL

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 1:46pm

Chatman is a class act. Not gonna rip BYU. But his history

Plato

7/17/17 1:53pm

Yup. BYU's reasoning makes no sense at all. He was hitting BYU passive-

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 2:07pm

It's interesting he pinned this tweet.

thebruce

7/17/17 1:58pm

He kinda did but then deleted the tweet.

thebruce

7/17/17 1:54pm

BC probably has a better B school anyway. Good for him.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 7:40am

BYU - tied for #34. BC - tied for #44.

ByuMba90

7/17/17 8:22am

Ok well, it looks better on your resume to have gone somewhere different from

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 8:28am

RE: Ok well, it looks better on your resume to have gone somewhere different

ByuMba90

7/17/17 8:30am

Well, it's nice to have degrees from both East Coast and West.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 2:23pm

Are we back here again??

RoaroftheCougartails

7/17/17 9:02am

I don't really see how Rose was in the wrong

Coop

7/17/17 9:42am

We coulda used Frank Bartley MUCH more.

mantis mutu

7/17/17 11:22am

possibly but I remember him turning over the ball a lot

D.T. Survivor

7/17/17 7:17pm

He woulda been far & away our best athlete last season. Woulda been a HUGE

mantis mutu

7/17/17 8:57pm

Why do you think he was athletic?

D.T. Survivor

7/17/17 9:43pm

Speed, strength & a 40+ vertical. Prob our best pure athlete in over a decade.

mantis mutu

7/17/17 9:45pm

Wow I didn't know his vert was that high.

D.T. Survivor

7/17/17 9:59pm

His skill set was no doubt raw. But he was a good passer & had a good enough

mantis mutu

7/17/17 10:02pm

Well, you probably have a much better eye for athleticism, Mutu

D.T. Survivor

7/18/17 9:47am

Our locker room has obviously had some issues for a few years now.

mantis mutu

7/18/17 10:25am

Link to that vertical stat? I'm not sure he was as athletic as you remember, but

Epileptic Beagle

7/17/17 10:27pm

It was mentioned in an offseason article once. Some of his rebounds certainly

mantis mutu

7/18/17 10:26am

40+"?! No way. Come on, I know absence makes the heart grow fonder, but

bstod

7/18/17 11:09am

Ok, I may be crazy here - you referring to FB or Chat?

bstod

7/18/17 11:13am

First of all, it's women's bball, second of all Jordan was not as good as expect

Dizzying Intellect

7/17/17 11:09am

After all he's done for the program, we can't accommodate his son going to law

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 8:36am

Why would Rose's behavior impact Juddy's team?

Coop

7/17/17 6:25am

Who said anything about Rose?

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 7:36am

Oh, I see - you don't know what actually happened

Coop

7/17/17 8:42am

I don't, but the BYU admin has an anal, inane, and self-important history.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 8:45am

And they're really good at being the fall guy, because they don't comment

Coop

7/17/17 8:47am

Is she still in school at BYU?

NewMexiCoug

7/17/17 7:20am

Podcast didn't say. They only spent like 30 secs on the subject.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 7:39am

this is sports where there is scarcity for roster spots, to be a starter, or

cwilke1

7/17/17 7:49am

I agree with your last sentence. Someone check Twitter to see if he's still

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 7:50am

BYU admin has a history of shortsightedness.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 7:51am

But CB has said that BYU is infallible

TNT

7/17/17 8:09am

BYU isn't fallible but CB is.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 8:28am

What do BYU athletics have to do with admin in this case? This post is random. What's your point?

Turnpike Lane

7/17/17 9:26am

Wait and how do we know BYU did something? Maybe she is having a baby and is

BYUfan92

7/17/17 10:24am

For what it's worth it appears she is still enrolled in school!

Northern Blue

7/17/17 10:28am

SUU. Only here for the summer

ColdFusion1989

7/17/17 11:41am

I admire your and Criddle's passion in looking out for the women's bball team

cwilke1

7/17/17 11:25am

Melia Mnowihine

ColdFusion1989

7/17/17 11:46am

I appreciate our misogynistic post. You should run for president.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 11:50am

So are you saying you want our country to have a misogynistic president?

cwilke1

7/17/17 12:19pm

She got screwed. She wanted to stay but the coaches who recruited her left.

ColdFusion1989

7/17/17 11:41am

?...Judkins?

84 Grad

7/17/17 11:45am

Juddy leaves most of his recruiting to his assistants. Makes for weird politics.

ColdFusion1989

7/17/17 11:47am

But doesn't he have the final say on who gets a scholarship? A scholarship

84 Grad

7/17/17 11:49am

He give the end permission. He gave the go ahead, but an assistant wanting a

ColdFusion1989

7/17/17 11:54am

If that's the case, as you said it "makes for weird politics."

84 Grad

7/17/17 12:02pm

so Jessica Chatman was on the BYU team last season and got cut in some kind of

cwilke1

7/17/17 12:25pm

SMOKE!!!!

ugo1st

7/17/17 12:45pm

good one.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 12:49pm

Pinned tweet from jeff

thebruce

7/17/17 2:13pm

On the money.

ChinoCoug

7/17/17 2:18pm

Golly, I wonder if Freddie has seen this

Epileptic Beagle

7/17/17 2:24pm

this actually still leaves it open to the issue being post-graduate school and

fattycoug

7/17/17 2:51pm

I'm sorry to see Chatman's go...however Jordan set one of the obscure

BYUSwoop

7/17/17 3:21pm

Should I conclude something from this?

CosmoK

7/17/17 5:17pm

His role was bigger at BC, I assume. (Not by the end of the season.)

mantis mutu

7/17/17 9:42pm

Jordan wasn't told he should transfer to a JC by Dave Rose.

slatecoug

7/26/17 12:04am

Right. That wouldn't make any sense that in June, well after season ending

wisconsincougs

7/26/17 7:44am

I agree

thebruce

7/26/17 7:45am

Criddle should start discussing issues CB needs to get over

gww687

7/17/17 5:40pm

It's women's basketball, can't believe there are so many responses

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