I was excited for Indy too. I had hope that it would let us negotiate p5

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Oct 11, 2017
9:11:44pm

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I was excited for Indy too. I had hope that it would let us negotiate p5

inclusion like Notre Dame. The p5 didn’t include us in anything though. They left us with no voting rights, the worst playoff payout in college football, and the worst NY6 access. They won’t schedule us in the 2nd half of the season and many demand 2 for 1 so our schedules still suck. Our buddy, Notre Dame, won’t even play us anymore. They got a 2 for 0.

I think many fans are living on what we all hoped Indy would be. The reality is a horrible situation though.

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Drage, my man, absolutely not. #NeverMWC

10/11/17 7:41pm

What if you lose 2? What are you playing for when you are basically out of the

cougaman

10/11/17 7:43pm

Have you ever coached?

Turbine

10/11/17 7:51pm

Curious why thats even relevant? Do coaches say "well, we aren't in a conference

cougaman

10/11/17 9:23pm

It is pretty relevant. College kids don’t just get amped for

cougtrain

10/11/17 10:10pm

Exactly. We are at a big disadvantage and its our own fault.

Turbine

10/11/17 10:50pm

I'm not buying it. I acknowledged that some games will have a little extra

cougaman

10/11/17 11:19pm

The players I played with and coached didn't feel the way you expect. There

Turbine

10/11/17 11:50pm

"College kids don’t just get amped for every game" - they do for LSU, MSU, Wisc,

MormonThug

10/12/17 5:34am

It's clear there are many many pro conference fans, players, etc.

Joe Hardy

10/12/17 8:57am

This is, without a doubt, the most absurd post I've ever seen on CB

Dissenter

10/12/17 11:20am

Umm nope. This has plenty of logic in it.

Joe Hardy

10/12/17 4:24pm

Actually there's a lot of truth to it

shakarocks

10/12/17 4:41pm

You don't think players are excited? That's idiotic

Dissenter

10/12/17 7:12pm

After Wisconsin, the players knew the season was over. I would

Joe Hardy

10/12/17 8:37pm

Players are going to play

shakarocks

10/12/17 10:26pm

No truth in this. What team is out of the conference race at 0-2? With 7-8 left

Cougarfan777

10/11/17 8:08pm

However many games it is, I don't care. You should be motivated enough to play

cougaman

10/11/17 8:34pm

Helping other teams in the conference is motivation? LOL

wapiti

10/11/17 11:33pm

Drage = cougarfan777?

84 Grad

10/11/17 7:43pm

The funny thing about this is that outside of Detmer, Drage is my top Cougar

Cougarfan777

10/11/17 8:05pm

Narcissist

84 Grad

10/11/17 8:15pm

Not just drage. The majority of former players want us to go back.

Backcountry

10/11/17 7:59pm

Vocal minority. Just like here on CB.

Refugee

10/11/17 8:47pm

I'm going off the guys criddle interviews. I don't think it's a vocal minority.

Backcountry

10/11/17 8:47pm

It sounds pretty common for the former players to say they want back in a

cougtrain

10/11/17 8:52pm

It's time to go back.

Buck99

10/11/17 9:41pm

Haha, what does Drage know? He’s only one of the best WRs to play at BYU

Run-DMT

10/11/17 7:59pm

CB knows more than majority of former players, coaches and ADs. Didn't you know?

Turbine

10/11/17 8:04pm

Exactly. What does he know about running an AD and those realities?

10/11/17 8:48pm

I'm totally with Drage. I'd prefer AAC but MWC will do. BYU gave Indy a good

CB4

10/11/17 8:03pm

I was excited for Indy too. I had hope that it would let us negotiate p5

cougtrain

10/11/17 9:11pm

Can't go back....so stop pining.

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:18am

Id take the AAC easily. Id consider the MWC.

Turbine

10/11/17 8:05pm

He's right, as are most of the former players saying this

mosterlow

10/11/17 8:05pm

Absolutely, most former players get it.

CB4

10/11/17 8:07pm

Kalani gets it, too. We're 1-5, but it's okay cause he gets it.

Left Shark Coug

10/11/17 8:16pm

Every former player I have spoken with thinks BYU should go back to a conferenc.

mm73

10/12/17 5:16am

Except Criddle and Cam Jensen who'd trade every one of their

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:47pm

And Austin Collie and Kehl and Pitta...basically everybody who played in the MWC

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:50pm

I spoke with Kehl about it after a fireside that he gave for our stake.

mm73

10/13/17 4:08am

I would love either AAC or MW

Baseball77

10/11/17 8:09pm

Is this for real? The Mountain West?!?

Ushuaia

10/11/17 8:37pm

Haha...tide has turned and some on here are still in denial

kosmokramer

10/11/17 8:14pm

RE: Haha...tide has turned and some on here are still in denial

Abe Froman

10/11/17 8:44pm

RE: Haha...tide has turned and some on here are still in denial

d-coug

10/11/17 8:48pm

Vocal minority. Not even close to a majority. Those that know we will be independent through the tv rights upheaval

Refugee

10/11/17 8:49pm

Wrong. These games from Oct thru Nov still feel like exhibition games

Run-DMT

10/11/17 8:56pm

Aren't they all against MWC teams but one?

kooogar

10/11/17 10:03pm

And they would still be if we were in the MWC. You have no argument

Dissenter

10/12/17 11:22am

Bingo, the MWC is irrelevant....hmm remaining games are the MWC teams

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:45pm

Drage brought it up...October and November are

kosmokramer

10/11/17 9:02pm

Win a few... we did. We didn't get in. What will a few more do?

Memmo

10/11/17 9:18pm

P5 ain’t happening. That ship sailed. We already spent 7 years in

cougtrain

10/11/17 9:51pm

I didn't say we were necessarily getting in. Just that independence won't end until TV rights are up and those that know

Refugee

10/12/17 5:00am

Majority of former players want G5 irrelevance and far less money?

CougarThug

10/11/17 10:03pm

It's the truth. We are much better off being in a conference. Beyond obvious.

Joe Hardy

10/12/17 9:23am

Only to the vocal minority and only looking through the rearview mirror of how things once were in college football.

Refugee

10/12/17 10:23am

Yep

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:46pm

I totally agree with him. Our pride is all that is keeping us from the MWC.

YSMACK

10/11/17 9:21pm

And $. But who cares about $ right?

GOR

10/11/17 9:46pm

They aren’t giving that money to me, so I don’t care about it. It’s not enough

cougtrain

10/11/17 10:24pm

The only reason why we can't go back now is that it signals we have given up.

Backcountry

10/11/17 9:28pm

Waiting this long to do something was very shortsighted

kosmokramer

10/11/17 9:33pm

I agree is Drage

Buck99

10/11/17 9:40pm

After Big 12 slammed the door in our face, I sadly agree.

10/11/17 9:50pm

The next round of realignment.

GOR

10/11/17 10:53pm

I think it's already been made painfully obvious that those in power don't want

10/11/17 11:07pm

I think you're right - but we have to know for sure before we leave indy IMO.

GOR

10/11/17 11:09pm

I can respect that opinion and I think it's the Hail Mary TH is holding onto.

10/11/17 11:15pm

Why? It’s easy to jump from the AAC or MWC to a p5. Look at all the teams that

cougtrain

10/11/17 11:16pm

^^^THIS^^^ Indy was ok when we could pretend each game was important because the

cougtrain

10/11/17 10:58pm

that's not what P5 leagues are telling Tom.

HarlemCoug

10/11/17 11:08pm

He told you that did he? They’re saying, “Tom, we turned down millions of

cougtrain

10/11/17 11:22pm

you can call Tom a liar, but I won't

HarlemCoug

10/11/17 11:48pm

I doubt Drage really means that.

CMuehle

10/11/17 9:55pm

Bronco said it in what 2014 or 2015? And he was the coach speak king.

CB4

10/11/17 10:05pm

Actually, no, I don't remember

CMuehle

10/11/17 11:07pm

Well, for one thing, we'd be completely out of the MWC race anyway....

cajuncoug

10/11/17 9:55pm

CajunCoug for the win. Couldn't have said it better.

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:53pm

I've never wanted to be on the B-team. Seems Drage would rather play on the B-team. I'd rather lose to A-teams.

HarlemCoug

10/11/17 10:46pm

I agree with him. It's time to admit that Independence is a failed experiment.

eddog

10/11/17 11:10pm

Going g5 means accepting that BYUis second tier. Staying indy very well may lead

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:04am

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BlueForLife

10/12/17 12:08am

I agree with Drage. Give me intrigue and something to play for in November. Any

BlueForLife

10/12/17 12:03am

We would make less money and watch less games on TV. Yuck

youngster

10/12/17 12:08am

But the team will have something to play for

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:27am

Ummm...we r playing to get to a bowl game

10/12/17 5:03am

Because indy is workng so well! Indy=G5/D2. 103rd ranked .... Too many 2 star

blackshirts

10/12/17 5:37am

Living in the past

10/12/17 8:04am

Yep...CFB will never go back to what it was when he played.

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:52pm

Brandon Bradley said the same

shakarocks

10/12/17 9:14am

NEVER NEVER NEVER MWC

runningryan

10/12/17 10:24am

I'd like to ask him if you lose 5 games do you still have something to play for?

ArchbishopMitty

10/12/17 6:31pm

Bingo

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:51pm

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