He never had control of the program. That was very apparent to me at a practice

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Dec 6, 2017
4:50:51pm

tebowned All-American

I attended. It was a country club. Overly relaxed. No discipline. The offense looked like garbage then too.

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Time

I just can’t do it....

cougar247

12/6/17 10:12am

Its been rough. But throw some water in your face, slap yourself a few times and

4mack

12/6/17 10:15am

Okay.

douglasturtle

12/6/17 10:16am

It is strange.

Zedhead

12/6/17 10:18am

I hear that

Pretorian

12/6/17 1:53pm

Ditto

Paco

12/6/17 4:31pm

Why this year over others?

Ojiisan

12/6/17 10:19am

Good question. We've all been through it before.

cougar247

12/6/17 10:37am

Which others have compared to this?

gmj81

12/6/17 11:17am

No BYU team in teh modern era has shown such a considerable lack of life and fight. Crowton's teams at least fought

morningcalmcougar

12/6/17 1:36pm

The worst I ever saw a BYU team give up was our home game against CSU in 2003

mantis mutu

12/6/17 4:02pm

Please don't bring back memories like that. I was there it was awful.

ragid

12/6/17 5:15pm

Sorry. I was in denial about it for some time. Life was better that way.

mantis mutu

12/6/17 5:24pm

That all happened to me a few years ago=it becomes an interest not an obsession!

farsurfer

12/6/17 2:33pm

Most people won't say it or don't realize it, but it has to do with the UofU

palangi

12/7/17 11:40am

the thing is...we've had bad seasons in the past, questionable hires, recruits..

All-American Coug

12/6/17 10:22am

One minor correction. LaVell's teams were very good starting in the mid-'70s. We went to the Fiesta Bowl in '74.

Brisco

12/6/17 5:11pm

Just because an OC hasn't been hired yet doesn't mean there is no plan.

TheLoneCougar

12/6/17 10:22am

Yeah I'd rather lose a few recruits than make the wrong OC hire.

GOR

12/6/17 11:01am

So why let Ty go before you have a replacement for him?

gmj81

12/6/17 11:19am

I clearly don't know the real answer to this, but speculating I'd say:

TheLoneCougar

12/6/17 11:31am

To send the message that the program is changing proactively

WhiteKnight

12/7/17 11:28am

So you let people know its changing but they dont know if its for the better

gmj81

12/7/17 11:44am

With early signing day around the corner, you've got to have a guy in place

gmj81

12/7/17 11:45am

You look before you leap... this tells me we didn’t look before TD was tossed

Pretorian

12/6/17 1:55pm

Yea, and if they started next year 6-0, ( I know highly unlikley),

BYURider

12/6/17 10:22am

have you considered you may need to change your board name?

4mack

12/6/17 10:23am

Well played!

cougar247

12/6/17 10:32am

Oklahoma Football 1994-99:

Ulysses14

12/6/17 10:35am

Oklahoma (P5) =/= BYU (Not P5, Not G5, Not committed one way or the other)

TrueBlue67

12/6/17 12:48pm

So we still have no chance at a NC. But we can certainly improve over the next

JuicyJam

12/6/17 2:08pm

This is simply silly. Very silly. Not committed?

Eddie

12/6/17 3:39pm

Know exactly how you feel, what I now think and do is this...

Coug76

12/6/17 10:35am

Bosco said that? Wow.

eddog

12/6/17 12:19pm

Not surprising. The program has been riding the fence of seriousness for decades

Ash

12/6/17 2:14pm

if every donor gives that threat, it’s very unlikely

Colorado

12/7/17 6:31am

I agree on all accounts. Describes my feelings too. Need a new direction & HC.

guitarplayingcougar

12/6/17 10:39am

RE: I just can’t do it....

displacedute

12/6/17 10:43am

Couldn't take anything seriously after "escape goat"

fredgarvin

12/6/17 10:50am

Haha! Just noticed that.

cougar247

12/6/17 11:16am

You know things are bad when the goats are escaping

therock

12/6/17 3:30pm

RE: I just can’t do it....

IceCreamButt

12/6/17 10:59am

Dude. It was one. bad. year.

GOR

12/6/17 10:59am

No. It goes much deeper than that.

cougar247

12/6/17 12:42pm

This is TBD... so yes... for now it is one really bad year

Pretorian

12/6/17 1:56pm

Too young to have lived through Crowton era, eh?

BlueTooth

12/6/17 11:04am

Nope. This is worse. We fired the HC then.

cougar247

12/6/17 11:18am

After how many years?

Graig Swame

12/6/17 11:41am

The problem is that apart from our performance, the environment our FB program

dreamlvr

12/6/17 11:44am

Crowton era was ten times worse.

TheLoneCougar

12/6/17 11:46am

Disagree. It's never been this bad. Crowton era still had wins over ND, Cuse,

gmj81

12/6/17 12:05pm

BYU beat Michigan St., Mississippi St., and Arizona in '16

boscatar

12/6/17 1:26pm

All were horrid and had losing records. We have a low bar if that is impressive!

Cougstreak

12/6/17 2:11pm

We didn't beat anybody this year and were one of worst teams in nearly all stats

gmj81

12/6/17 2:14pm

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Cougstreak

12/6/17 2:27pm

Disagree. Now is much worse.

Cougstreak

12/6/17 12:40pm

RE: I just can’t do it....

Thrill

12/6/17 11:35am

I have a similar MO and I still care very much

WaybackCougar

12/6/17 11:48am

The program needs to find an identy fast....

Bonoman

12/6/17 11:52am

Step off the ledge. It's ok.

Mark320

12/6/17 12:15pm

Methinks TH's silence on TFD has more to do with trying to keep him on the staff

stirmac

12/6/17 12:22pm

Sure seems like KS is following the KW model, not good

Fansince67

12/6/17 12:25pm

pull yourself together man. you'll probably laugh at your emotional post

Str8CashCougar

12/6/17 1:47pm

I think it's funny when people are mad that Ty got fired and say Sitake should

JuicyJam

12/6/17 2:07pm

Agreed 100%. The problem is that by firing ONLY Ty, nothing changes.

cougar247

12/6/17 2:43pm

Head coaches always have longer leashes than coordinators.

eddog

12/6/17 5:07pm

we aren't your therapists, bro.

Bostonblue

12/6/17 2:12pm

This season wasn’t bad.

Gerald-DeGroot

12/6/17 2:29pm

I root for the BYU football team because I love BYU, not because I love BYU fb

yakkamole

12/6/17 2:45pm

I specifically used the term BYU Football Fandom for that very reason.

cougar247

12/6/17 2:47pm

Do you watch all BYU sports because you love BYU?

Cougstreak

12/6/17 2:50pm

No. That's true. I do follow many of the sports fairly closely though.

yakkamole

12/6/17 3:45pm

This post is ridiculous. There is no reasonable scenario that would have

mm73

12/6/17 2:47pm

You either misunderstood my post or didn't read it.

cougar247

12/6/17 2:52pm

KS being fired after one bad season was not a realistic scenario. The only way

mm73

12/6/17 2:59pm

Doesn't mean it should not have happened. Either way, the program is a mess.

cougar247

12/6/17 3:08pm

How is the program worse off now than during Crowton?

mm73

12/6/17 5:09pm

I am a Die Hard BYU football addict and always will be. There is no cure and I

Gorum the Old

12/6/17 2:59pm

What do you mean manner we let Ty go? He sucked, he was fired. That's life

Dissenter

12/6/17 3:26pm

I feel the same way 🙁

RUNBYU1

12/6/17 3:39pm

CharlottesvilleCoug

12/6/17 3:40pm

100% agree!!!! I'd only add, TH should be held responsible for BYU

blackshirts

12/6/17 3:48pm

I wouldn't want his job. I don't think there's a more difficult AD position in

dreamlvr

12/6/17 4:02pm

I feel much the same.

Coogar2

12/6/17 3:52pm

What will you do next season if they finish 11-2?

Thug Mormons

12/6/17 3:56pm

You're me at 25. At 40..

curmudgeon

12/6/17 4:41pm

He never had control of the program. That was very apparent to me at a practice

tebowned

12/6/17 4:50pm

2nd 👆

blackshirts

12/6/17 5:53pm

This is a great example racial profiling. I've attended practices in the

palangi

12/7/17 12:18pm

Then why are you here?

Reedme

12/6/17 4:50pm

Sounds good

chance's cougar

12/6/17 4:55pm

You should email Holmoe.

Dr MoBYU

12/6/17 5:16pm

Gosh, Really feeling bad for your over the top over reaction, plus the past

Beetdiggercoug

12/6/17 5:25pm

If it's really that bad, leave. No one wants a negative fan. I too am hurting

thechillcougar

12/6/17 5:40pm

The thing is he wasn't whining or moaning. He is not a negative fan. He has a

Big Daddy D

12/6/17 7:13pm

Big Daddy D gets it.

cougar247

12/6/17 8:29pm

RE: I just can’t do it....

Circaman12

12/6/17 6:32pm

The atrocity of firing TFD????? Pleeeeeeeaaaaase!

Hawk Talons

12/6/17 6:36pm

There are different levels of atrocity. Humanity scope vs athletic program

Big Daddy D

12/6/17 7:16pm

Enough with these anguished, emotional breakdowns, wrought with despair...

Jasbo

12/6/17 9:32pm

The Great Jasbo speaks. Internet tough guy. I love it!

cougar247

12/6/17 10:17pm

I appreciate that you recognize an oracle when you hear one...

Jasbo

12/6/17 11:31pm

You'll be back

daki

12/6/17 10:42pm

Why do people like this crap?

Mr Blue

12/7/17 7:18am

CALM DOWN! GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF

Str8CashCougar

12/7/17 12:35pm

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