I see what you are saying but here's what I think is happening

Jan 12, 2018
6:13:18pm

thebruce Playmaker

Rose and Schroyer don't want our guys to push the ball anymore.

Last year it was an emphasis... This year they want to grind it out in half court.

They absolutely have the personnel to push the ball if they wanted to.

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i'm a rose apologist. my favorite byu coach of all time. but its ridiculous

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 10:39am

34% on 3 is more than 50% on 2's

thebruce

1/12/18 10:41am

thanks. and there you go. he should be shooting 5-7 threes a game.

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 10:42am

We seem to be running a scheme for the sake of running a scheme rather than

Indy Coug

1/12/18 10:44am

right. because long rebounds go back to us a good percentage of the time.

johnnycarson

1/12/18 10:44am

I just mean that the percentage of a 34% 3 is equal to like 51% from 2.

thebruce

1/12/18 10:47am

yeah. and im saying its even better than that. i think people have been able

johnnycarson

1/12/18 10:48am

I agree, especially as a 4 if you can be a consistent threat from the outside

thebruce

1/12/18 10:52am

Except that isn’t considering foul shots.

BYUCLA

1/12/18 6:47pm

The best formula is to look at ppp

thebruce

1/12/18 6:54pm

DOes that work for individual players stats?

BYUCLA

1/12/18 7:00pm

Long rebounds off 3 pointers is a myth.

jsjohnson1278

1/12/18 8:14pm

I really miss the transition game.

Goatnapper'96

1/12/18 10:43am

I miss it, then I remember how it equated to zero success is post season

idacoug

1/12/18 2:16pm

3 x .333 = 1, 2 x .5 = 1

mulletino

1/12/18 10:43am

Meant for thebruce (with lisp)

mulletino

1/12/18 10:43am

But, 3 x .34 = 1.02 which is > 1.

SierraCoug

1/12/18 11:09am

for whatever reason we've moved away from half court sets and motion and

nashty

1/12/18 10:44am

^I said almost these exact words when yelling at the TV last night.

BlooGeek

1/12/18 12:44pm

I agree. If you take 6 threes at 33% vs 6 twos and make 50% you end up with six

Savage91

1/12/18 10:46am

the main reason he needs to shoot more 3's is because he is supposed to be

thebruce

1/12/18 10:51am

rose seems so enamored with this high-low post play. that doesn't get

johnnycarson

1/12/18 10:53am

Seljaas is also gun shy when anyone us in his vicinity

thebruce

1/12/18 11:08am

and this is where i blame the coaches. they should be telling him to shoot or

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 12:42pm

The offense is not getting him or others enough open shots, especially

kimdaddy35

1/12/18 11:01am

i really think its because rose is running this high low post play all the time.

johnnycarson

1/12/18 11:03am

It seems to me TJ specifically struggles in the half court

thebruce

1/12/18 11:21am

you can't push the ball if you can't rebound well

warp

1/12/18 12:50pm

We are one of the best defensive rebounding teams in the country. #4 in

thebruce

1/12/18 1:02pm

capturing the rebound does not

warp

1/12/18 6:01pm

I see what you are saying but here's what I think is happening

thebruce

1/12/18 6:13pm

This team is also forcing more TOs than last year's team fyi

thebruce

1/12/18 6:14pm

he was open plenty last night. consistently throughout the night open at the

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 12:44pm

Math Basics - 12 threes at .33% = 4 makes = 12 points; 12 twos at .50% = 6 makes

BYU I Bleed Blue

1/12/18 11:43am

Gotta add in the effect of more free throws when taking 2s

BYUCLA

1/12/18 6:50pm

That is true, but then again, a foul on three gives you three, but the

BYU I Bleed Blue

1/12/18 7:16pm

Are we assuming Seljaas is reluctant to shoot because the coaches have

Agaricus

1/12/18 12:04pm

that's the assumption and i'll tell you why. the coaches have all the control -

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 12:45pm

has anyone else noticed that Seljaas has a sid-spin on his shot? It's not

Bostonblue

1/12/18 12:53pm

yeah and he sometimes floats forward too

warp

1/12/18 1:01pm

its a beautiful stroke - i'll have to pay more attention to this supposed

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 1:07pm

It definitely exists.

Bostonblue

1/12/18 1:14pm

The only question is whether it existed during his frosh year or

Bostonblue

1/12/18 1:18pm

Maybe he's not shooting or trying hard to get open.

Michicoug

1/12/18 3:19pm

Don’t blame Rose. The kid has lost confidence in his shot

youngster

1/12/18 3:20pm

he should be told if he doesn't shoot it when he's open he'll get pulled

smokymountainrain

1/12/18 3:29pm

And you're privy to what they've told him how?

Michicoug

1/12/18 3:46pm

I'm assuming that coaches are experimenting this year with the offense. Some areas are improved, but it's also clear

CalGTR

1/12/18 3:50pm

What makes you think he doesn't have the green light? I think he looks hesitant.

Real Men Wear Blue

1/12/18 6:10pm

I miss Mika

Coogar2

1/12/18 6:49pm

I really think this team would have been very good had Mika stayed, and if we

BYU I Bleed Blue

1/12/18 7:17pm

Better than Child’s and Seljaas inside

Coogar2

1/12/18 9:39pm

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