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Feb 13, 2018
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BYUALWAYSNUM1
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11 yo in 8th grade?
Besides that, sounds like an issue.
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My 11 yo niece is in 8 grade math. Boys were comparing “size” in a small group
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:43am
11 yo in 8th grade?
BYUALWAYSNUM1
2/13/18 11:45am
She’s in 6th grade but is in 8th grade math
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:46am
We’ve seen this issue playing kids up in sports. Something many don’t think
cougfanz
2/13/18 11:46am
You're saying they were just whipping it out in the middle of class?
JuicyJam
2/13/18 11:46am
No, they were providing details about measurements
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:47am
Ok.. So you're getting involved why?
JuicyJam
2/13/18 11:48am
Yeah I don’t understand what’s going on here.
Virginia Ute
2/13/18 11:48am
An 11 year old at school?
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:49am
Do you even remember jr high?
Virginia Ute
2/13/18 11:50am
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JAGA97
2/13/18 11:53am
Yeah, I'm siding with the Ute on this one
Carnac
2/13/18 11:52am
I'm not. Even though I agree. I've got principles.
panguitch
2/13/18 12:34pm
if her parents don't like it, they should home school. welcome to jr high.
smokymountainrain
2/13/18 11:56am
Uncle should stop involving himself as her parent
cougarmanguy
2/13/18 12:05pm
That’s the risk her parents take letting her go to class with 8th graders.
YIsForBrigham
2/13/18 2:26pm
you guys are being ridiculous. nobody signs their 11yo up to hear boys talk
MormonThug
2/14/18 7:30am
I think we need more details. You sound like the weirdo jerk in this. Some
Byron McNertney
2/13/18 11:47am
She didn’t eavesdrop. She was included in the group.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:49am
They’re all kids. I’d be careful that you’re not the one who ends up in trouble.
messi
2/13/18 11:50am
So she was included in the group, was the conversation started while she was there or did she join thr group after
Baron
2/13/18 11:53am
It was directed at her. It was two boys and her.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:00pm
Okay, but as I state below, writing a letter to make them afraid will make it worse for your niece. Talk to the school
Baron
2/13/18 12:01pm
All you need to do is tell her those kids are idiots
buffgato
2/13/18 12:02pm
"mocking the other boy, but that was a separate problem." lol. dude, did you,
smokymountainrain
2/13/18 12:03pm
I did but there was no reason to mock me for this, believe me
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 5:38pm
sexual 'harassment'
Dissenter
2/13/18 1:04pm
Just be prepared for them to potentially laugh at you.
Ojiisan
2/13/18 11:48am
So you are about to get into a measuring contest with some 11-year olds?
kccougar
2/13/18 11:50am
You think it’s okay for 14 year old boys to have that convo with 11yo girl?
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:50am
Do I think it's normal for 14-yr old boys to have a discussion about sex? Yes.
kccougar
2/13/18 11:54am
It’s not criminal but it is sexual harrassment
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:57am
Did she tell them she wasn't comfortable with the conversation? Or tell the
molodyets
2/13/18 11:59am
She’s telling the teacher today
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:09pm
And what makes it worse is when her uncle gets involved trying to be her
molodyets
2/13/18 12:28pm
This. Really bad idea. You're not helping.
Orem58thBall
2/13/18 8:59pm
That’s where it should end. Let her tell the teacher and have the
Mathew
2/13/18 2:32pm
If someone has a "dirty conversation" is it always considered sexual harassment
Idahofallsblue
2/13/18 4:38pm
In this context the legal elements are:
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 4:49pm
It’s locker room talk, I heard that somewhere.
Cougtruth
2/14/18 12:31pm
Also she was assigned, didn’t have a choice to hang with them
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:58am
Assigned to the class? Or assigned to the be in the conversation...
conetah
2/14/18 7:31am
With her? Or she overheard?
Mr. Belding
2/13/18 11:58am
It was 3 people in a group project and she was assigned to the group
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:03pm
yeah, that's inappropriate
libertycoug
2/13/18 4:07pm
Is this any different than if some 13/14 year old girls
JuicyJam
2/13/18 11:58am
Probably depends on context
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:36pm
My money is on the 11yr old.
Dishonor Code
2/14/18 1:30pm
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Buffalo
2/13/18 11:50am
RE: Why would an uncle get involved in this?
Fetchin Fetcher
2/13/18 11:56am
You are going to sue the kids for talking about genitals among each other?
cougarnerd
2/13/18 11:50am
No I am not going to sue
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:52am
What's your plan?
Fetchin Fetcher
2/13/18 11:56am
Flex on some 11 yr olds
TPcoug
2/13/18 3:32pm
You should just teach her a hilarious burn for next time it comes up. I'm sure we can help.
Dillinger
2/13/18 11:51am
She’s 11 with 14 year olds.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:51am
We all get that. Not appropriate talk for sure but you're not going to help this situation.
Dillinger
2/13/18 11:53am
Exactly. What they did was inappropriate. Pulling the "I'm a lawyer!" card is
Byron McNertney
2/13/18 11:55am
And will make her a target.
messi
2/13/18 11:58am
Unfortunately, yes it will. Venetian should stay out of it for this reason.
Coach's Dad
2/13/18 12:06pm
What the girl needs, if anything, is coaching on how to handle it herself
buffgato
2/13/18 12:11pm
False
libertycoug
2/13/18 4:10pm
Would it have been ok if she was also fourteen?
Cougtruth
2/14/18 12:33pm
So this conversation may be inappropriate, but what are you going to threaten here? Can they not
Baron
2/13/18 11:51am
Leave the kids alone. They’ve done nothing wrong or illegal and they didn’t
nashty
2/13/18 11:52am
They've done nothing wrong? Ummm..I don't think that's really true. Have they
Iman23
2/13/18 11:54am
It’s pretty clearly sexual harassment
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 11:55am
Ok, that makes it worse. No one is going to be impressed by your letterhead though. I'd go talk to the principal
Dillinger
2/13/18 11:56am
This is clearly the right answer
BoiseBlue
2/13/18 11:59am
And maybe it should be the girl's parents, not uncle doing the talking.
TheWanderer
2/13/18 12:00pm
Maybe. This just barely happened. I’m being reactionary
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:05pm
hopefully you recognize HOW much you're overreacting before you actually do something.
jdub
2/13/18 12:09pm
How can you scare them?
TaiJuan
2/13/18 11:56am
Well that detail definitely makes your reaction make a little more sense.
Virginia Ute
2/13/18 11:57am
Um no. No it’s not “clearly” sexual harassment
nashty
2/13/18 11:58am
It’s sexual in nature and creates an offensive learning environment
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:06pm
Thank you, recently graduated law student.
kccougar
2/13/18 12:42pm
Groan, I’ve been practicing for a long time
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:55pm
RE: Groan, I’ve been practicing for a long time
YardTime
2/13/18 1:20pm
As I said there and here, CA doesn’t have reciprocity
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 1:21pm
Yet! It’s coming.
reagan21
2/13/18 5:35pm
That's even worse.
kccougar
2/13/18 1:33pm
You will probably make it worse for your niece. Kids are smart.
SLC-Warrior
2/13/18 12:00pm
Okay, they said some horrible things that are arguably sexual harassment. Now you sending a letter to scare them
Baron
2/13/18 12:00pm
Bingo
buffgato
2/13/18 12:06pm
I agree with you. It will be a much more valuable lesson coming this way than later on getting real legal processes
Zenoch
2/13/18 12:07pm
Lolololol
LaVellIfIKnow
2/13/18 12:08pm
Is she aware that boys have a penis? We should start there
pink22
2/13/18 12:22pm
Plus, you are her uncle. Not her father. His decision.
conetah
2/14/18 7:33am
as long as they're in the country legally, I agree.
Belboz
2/15/18 3:39pm
seriously?
coltonbyu
2/15/18 5:02pm
Only a good idea if your goal is to make things worse
Ulysses14
2/13/18 11:53am
So what was the math problem? Making math relatable is very important.
JAGA97
2/13/18 11:54am
Trying to figure out your angle on this thing
buffgato
2/13/18 11:56am
Are her parents unable to handle the situation for some reason?
CommodoreCoug
2/13/18 11:57am
They're not lawyers
Fetchin Fetcher
2/13/18 11:59am
This confuses me too. Sounds like at most
JuicyJam
2/13/18 12:00pm
We're you present in the conversation, or is this being relayed by 11 yo?
BYUALWAYSNUM1
2/13/18 11:59am
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Mr. Belding
2/13/18 11:59am
I imagine your conversation with the boys would go like this:
Six Foot Seven
2/13/18 11:59am
lawyer uncle has no reason to be involved, thats just plain dumb.
coltonbyu
2/13/18 12:01pm
One of my fav things about CB is when someone doubles down on a wrong opinion
TCuz
2/13/18 12:02pm
I was in the process of writing this exact post and then changed my mind.
DOC
2/13/18 12:05pm
link to that one? sounds great
coltonbyu
2/13/18 12:15pm
Please, for CB lore purposes, don't delete this thread.
TCuz
2/13/18 12:15pm
To be fair, I didn’t double down on my reaction
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:33pm
They're middle school boys. It happens every day.
Dissenter
2/13/18 1:10pm
Busy bodies gotta be busy
HoustonCougar
2/13/18 12:04pm
Let's measure how tiny of a problem this is, and how HUGE of an anal-minded
TeeKaa
2/13/18 12:06pm
I back you 100% as long as you have never done anything similar in your youth.
Mister P
2/13/18 12:07pm
BTW, have you discussed your plan with your niece?
Mister P
2/13/18 12:09pm
And this is why boy/girl scouts is dead.
JAGA97
2/13/18 12:09pm
BUT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO BILL ELEVEN BILLION DOLLARS FOR YOUR AMAZING FIRM!
LaVellIfIKnow
2/13/18 12:09pm
You’re not even really a lawyer yet
Mr. Belding
2/13/18 12:10pm
I’m licensed in multiple states.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:11pm
Multiple states? Is that a size comparison?
jdub
2/13/18 12:14pm
Taking multiple bar exams is the dumbest thing I’ve ever done
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 1:23pm
Ok. But you’re brand new. And it shows.
Mr. Belding
2/13/18 12:15pm
I’m an angry family member who got fired up
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:33pm
Sounds like you need to run all your decisions through CB beforehand from now on
cougarnerd
2/13/18 12:38pm
good idea. Maybe he can give us a cut. We can be his preliminary counsil
coltonbyu
2/13/18 12:39pm
And boom goes the dynamite
Fetchin Fetcher
2/13/18 12:12pm
The last line of that post is the most telling
Fetchin Fetcher
2/13/18 12:13pm
No question
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:36pm
Funny but he is.
JuicyJam
2/13/18 12:13pm
Maybe more damning that he's considering this. Smh.
HoustonCougar
2/13/18 12:14pm
It seems like those boys aren't the only ones comparing their manhood. Somebody
4mack
2/13/18 12:13pm
I’m really not. Just got pissed
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:34pm
we all get protective, and i respect the amount you care for your niece
4mack
2/13/18 12:42pm
I actually have an eighth grade boy. If he were doing this I’d be mortified and would address it ASAP. But if you
SJS
2/13/18 12:39pm
Sorry, meant for OP.
SJS
2/13/18 12:40pm
You can move posts meant to be under the OP.
Referee
2/13/18 7:22pm
RE: You can move posts meant to be under the OP.
SJS
2/13/18 7:50pm
FWIW, I would never confront a kid, ever.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:53pm
Yes, and I would take that letter straight to your state bar association
SJS
2/13/18 1:14pm
Probably not worth a discussion. We’ll agree is over the top
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 1:21pm
I absolutely hate to agree with some of the individuals replying to you....
CoachSpeak
2/13/18 12:12pm
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jdub
2/13/18 12:13pm
Keep at it. This could become a new practice area for you. "Think your classmate
vegasnative
2/13/18 12:21pm
Ooh, a lawyer. SpoooooOOOOooooooky. I'd love to get a dumb phone call like that. It'd make my month.
shimmy
2/13/18 12:23pm
Your poor niece is going to get unmercilessly teased if you do this.
Manti
2/13/18 12:32pm
What the fruit does lawyer have to do with it? As if that's supposed to
Lip Gallagher
2/13/18 12:35pm
First time I've seen "fruit" as a curse word replacement. I respect it.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 1:27pm
You are the type that gets up and walks out of movies or goes to a party and
pink22
2/13/18 12:55pm
totally wrong in all respects.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 12:58pm
I like how you manage to drop the fact that you're a lawyer into so many
benny1982
2/13/18 1:07pm
Unfortunately it’s a rather large part of my life
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 1:12pm
There are a ton of lawyers on here who never, or at least rarely, mention
benny1982
2/13/18 1:19pm
I don't even know where to start with this post.
Nagurski
2/13/18 1:12pm
Don’t, it’s run it’s course
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 1:23pm
I don't think this was the outcome you were expecting...
hadmonster
2/13/18 1:28pm
lol it's all good and correct.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 1:32pm
I agree. After reading some of your responses to some pretty inflammatory posts
Nagurski
2/13/18 1:31pm
Sounds like a "New Math" problem they were discussing/calculating.
Magic8Ball
2/13/18 1:24pm
Centimeters compared to millimeters
Mathew
2/13/18 2:36pm
Lame
WizeGuise
2/13/18 2:02pm
You're going to make her situation so much worse. Sounds like a better opportunity to teach your niece the types of
Pimpin4Paradise
2/13/18 2:11pm
Also, you crying sexual harassment over something as dumb as this only cheapens it for real victims.
Pimpin4Paradise
2/13/18 2:13pm
RE: Also, you crying sexual harassment over something as dumb as this only
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 2:14pm
RE: Also, you crying sexual harassment over something as dumb as this only
coltonbyu
2/13/18 2:18pm
I would stay far way from this. I could see this backfiring on you...
Alister Mackenzie
2/13/18 3:54pm
Heck yes. Go for it. Write a lengthy threatening letter with lots of legalese
BIG XII Coug
2/13/18 3:58pm
Well I’m sure that didn’t quite go like you expected.
UNLVcougar
2/13/18 5:18pm
Nope
BIG XII Coug
2/13/18 6:49pm
With respect to my overreaction, well deserved.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 9:13pm
I am shocked at how many men and fathers on this thread are okay with older
demon_llama
2/13/18 7:43pm
RE: I am shocked at how many men and fathers on this thread are okay with older
Delicate Genius
2/13/18 7:56pm
you prove my point.
demon_llama
2/13/18 8:10pm
I get people who think I overreacted, I don’t get minimizing the behavior
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 8:13pm
Links to people who think this behavior is OK?
SJS
2/13/18 8:17pm
Those weren’t my words. I said “minimizing” and there are plenty.
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 9:09pm
Slow down. They're all minors.
Mister P
2/13/18 8:16pm
Show me one person who was okay with it. Seriously. Show me one.
Alister Mackenzie
2/13/18 8:40pm
Here are several:
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 9:06pm
None of them are saying they're okay with it...
Alister Mackenzie
2/13/18 9:19pm
I don’t want to speak for others
VenetianCougar
2/13/18 9:25pm
You're overreacting
Orem58thBall
2/13/18 9:26pm
I really don't think anyone that isn't trolling believes the boys' behavior
hadmonster
2/14/18 7:48am
Hold, bro. They're all under 14. Yes, it should be dealt with, but not in a way
mantis mutu
2/15/18 4:50pm
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trjohnson007
2/14/18 12:20am
Why is this posted on Cougarboard?
andrewg3
2/14/18 12:03pm
Geeze folks, threatening a law suit on 8th graders for an event that happened at
The Old Y
2/14/18 12:05pm
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