So...you want BYU to be proactively doing what's best for BYU, but at the same

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Mar 13, 2018
8:48:45am

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time BYU should be considering how their moves affect every other school? That's a pretty difficult path to walk...

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When was the last time we acted proactively instead of reactionary? Why are

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:16pm

Never....probably could have gotten out of the WAC / MWC for a better

Dangerous

3/12/18 9:18pm

Your AD at the time has specifically said this isn’t true.

displacedute

3/12/18 11:28pm

RE: Your AD at the time has specifically said this isn’t true.

displacedute

3/13/18 11:13am

"Let's leave the WAC together and help form the MWC" has turned into

cav73

3/13/18 7:41am

Amen and amen. But we have a plan.

indojoe

3/12/18 9:19pm

When BYU left the WAC and founded the MWC.

DapperDan

3/12/18 9:21pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:32pm

Yep, sadly this is the last time

Kerbouchard

3/12/18 9:56pm

1999 when the MWC was created.

Everyman

3/12/18 9:22pm

Uh, when we went independent?

darkcoug

3/12/18 9:22pm

The year after Utah left? Truly proactive.

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:24pm

The same year.

gwalker

3/12/18 9:35pm

It was the same year and it would have been a dumb move to do it before then

darkcoug

3/12/18 9:42pm

And had been in the works for years

molodyets

3/12/18 9:54pm

That was reactionary. Did it occur before or after Utah left the MWC?

Texas Hammer

3/12/18 9:24pm

No it wasn’t, BYUtv was already built. It had already been in the works before.

BYUButters

3/13/18 12:59am

Would we have gone independent if utah and TCU stayed in the MWC?

BYUheaven

3/12/18 9:24pm

No way

thebruce

3/12/18 9:51pm

Such a proactive visionary move(tic), basically the death of byu football

kolob32

3/12/18 10:27pm

The creation of the MWC was proactive. The move to independence was proactive

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:24pm

No. It was reactive to Utah leaving. No reason to bury our head in sand

Hoax

3/12/18 9:25pm

BYU had been planning independence for years

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:26pm

Utah leaving may have been the catalyst, but it was planned previous to Utah lea

SUAVO

3/12/18 9:27pm

The only reason it wasn't done sooner was because of Utah. And Dr. Hill,

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:18pm

RE: BYU had been planning independence for years

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:28pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:30pm

Cmon just think for a second

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:32pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:35pm

Out maneuvered? How about a complete lack of integrity by certain AD's & Pres?

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:21pm

There is no way they would be able to get a decent schedule w/o announcing it.

SUAVO

3/12/18 9:33pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:37pm

The point is that you can't have a decent schedule for years down the road.

SUAVO

3/12/18 9:44pm

You can't be serious, if utah was still in mwc we would still be in mwc.

kolob32

3/12/18 10:25pm

Doesn't mean byu didn't have a plan in place

SUAVO

3/12/18 10:32pm

RE: Doesn't mean byu didn't have a plan in place

kolob32

3/12/18 10:44pm

People have been saying this was planned since independence. This isn't a new

SUAVO

3/12/18 10:51pm

"People"? This is the first time I've read this on CB. Maybe I missed the post.

kolob32

3/12/18 10:57pm

It was all over this board when,we went Indy. A lot of yewt fans saying we went

SUAVO

3/12/18 11:28pm

If they hadn’t had a plan in place, there’s no way they’d have been able to pull

gwalker

3/12/18 9:38pm

.....with the help of ESPN for football scheduling. That helped a lot.

Bonoman

3/13/18 12:22am

How do you know we aren’t right now? And how do you know we haven’t made the

gwalker

3/12/18 9:34pm

People already think the worst about BYU so they latch onto things

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:36pm

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East1999

3/12/18 9:40pm

Some people piss and moan until the new coach goes 4-9

Indy Coug

3/12/18 9:43pm

Im sure the $18 million contract wasnt the reason BM left, it probably had more

kolob32

3/12/18 10:49pm

Regardless if CB had any iota of actual influence in his departure, the fact remains

Indy Coug

3/12/18 10:57pm

Lets agree it was the minority, just like the minority want Rose gone.

kolob32

3/12/18 11:00pm

Mendenhall was pushed out and he found another job.

Belboz

3/13/18 8:23am

Bronco was done at BYU mentally, he knew it was time to move on....

Bonoman

3/13/18 12:27am

If the people involved with the MWC are so horrible, why did BYU join with or

DapperDan

3/12/18 9:47pm

Seriously. We created it, then left them high and dry. Now we act like we are

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:53pm

They flat out lied to us with the creation of CSTV/the Mtn. They refused to

gwalker

3/12/18 9:58pm

BOOM goes the Dynamite!!! Many here don't know how bad HAIR Thompson shafted BYU

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:23pm

We need to let broadcast rights go, isn't that what kept us out of b12, all BYUs

kolob32

3/12/18 11:07pm

We are a million miles away from knowing what, if anything, we did to keep us

gwalker

3/12/18 11:22pm

*unless the rumors are about the MWC screwing BYU, then they're gospel

DapperDan

3/13/18 7:58am

Except in this case it's not a rumor. Dave Checketts, who created CSTV and was

SWP

3/13/18 8:52am

Link?

DapperDan

3/13/18 9:16am

Here you go:

SWP

3/13/18 9:24am

Thanks. That confirms that it wasn't the MWC that screwed over BYU, it was

DapperDan

3/13/18 9:42am

I'm not sure that distinction matters when considering a reentry to the MWC.

SWP

3/13/18 11:51am

That's a completely different discussion

DapperDan

3/13/18 12:21pm

So...you want BYU to be proactively doing what's best for BYU, but at the same

SWP

3/13/18 8:48am

We found out what they were after forming the MWC. Going back may

gwalker

3/12/18 9:54pm

We had been in the same conference with them for decades. Of course they'd be

DapperDan

3/12/18 9:56pm

Not so. They did that with the TV issue before we left.

gwalker

3/12/18 9:59pm

Knifed them in the back? We carried them like Gonzaga has carried the WCC for

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:26pm

It's BYU. Athletics are fifth. Or something like that

TNT

3/12/18 9:36pm

That's right. Why do I get so invested....

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 9:45pm

TNT's cardboard box has many fist holes in it

TNT

3/12/18 9:46pm

fist holes?

Belboz

3/12/18 9:54pm

RE: fist holes?

TNT

3/12/18 10:20pm

I decided against attaching the GIF

Belboz

3/12/18 10:22pm

Chuck Norris doesn't fear TNT, but he does respect him.

Q-grr

3/12/18 10:28pm

If you have any grand ideas, we are all ears. Maybe call Goddell on his cell

WizeGuise

3/12/18 10:02pm

BYU made a proactive pitch to get in the PAC10 in the 90’s...

NorCal_Coug

3/12/18 10:47pm

TNT has gone on record with his opinion on this

TNT

3/12/18 10:55pm

TNT may be right...

NorCal_Coug

3/12/18 11:03pm

Oooooh the 90’s. if I could go back......

indojoe

3/13/18 12:12am

You have no idea because you are not in the AD’s office.

rockyrd

3/12/18 10:52pm

What is it you want BYU to do?

StantonMac

3/12/18 11:07pm

the ol' "do something, ANYTHING" answer seems appropriate for many posters here.

StarMan

3/12/18 11:40pm

I know...let’s bring back a popular player as HCand a Heisman winner as OC....

Bonoman

3/13/18 12:30am

From day one I have been against the idea of sacrificing the basketball program

Cougarfan777

3/12/18 11:52pm

Sounds pretty reactionary to me.

StantonMac

3/13/18 12:03am

Right, the only option is to be reactionary right now. We are reacting to the

Cougarfan777

3/13/18 12:09am

When someone else was the AD

chirocoug

3/12/18 11:37pm

It’s not a dichotomy. When proactive isn’t even an option, reactive > no-active

Extra Biscuits

3/12/18 11:50pm

Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard.

Ned Schneebly

3/13/18 12:29am

BYU is just not a proactive institution at the moment, in pretty much any regard

QuikCars

3/13/18 12:41am

Grand Canyon

EastCougar

3/13/18 5:56am

Seriously. We need to force ourselves into the SEC.

Refugee

3/13/18 6:00am

Given most of the CB suggestions for "acting", I'd can only say

panguitch

3/13/18 8:18am

Greg Wrubell told Cridell that BYU BB would be fine...let's trust Greg

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