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Apr 16, 2018
2:21:10pm

PJMort All-American

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PJMort

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POLL: Traveling: having established a pivot foot, when you lift that pivot foot you can do which of the following without traveling ?

PJMort

4/16/18 2:15pm

have you taken any dribbled before that? or did you catch the ball, and now you

coltonbyu

4/16/18 2:19pm

Either of those.

PJMort

4/16/18 2:21pm

those are different scenarios though. From what I understand reading the rules

coltonbyu

4/16/18 2:31pm

The poll was meant to be “after” you lift the pivot foot.

PJMort

4/16/18 2:33pm

RE: POLL: Traveling: having established a pivot foot, when you lift that pivot

seco03

4/16/18 2:25pm

RE: POLL: Traveling: having established a pivot foot, when you lift that pivot

seco03

4/16/18 2:29pm

Rule seems to say that you can pass, shoot, or dribble. Though they are differen

coltonbyu

4/16/18 2:33pm

RE: Rule seems to say that you can pass, shoot, or dribble. Though they are

seco03

4/16/18 2:35pm

yeah, which implies that you can legally dribble out of a pivot

coltonbyu

4/16/18 2:36pm

Yep. One of Larry Bird's best move came from that. Jab step

seco03

4/16/18 2:42pm

Once your pivot foot is established it can only come up if

4/16/18 2:26pm

I think your can jump off your pivot foot of both feet return to the ground at t

seco03

4/16/18 2:32pm

This is correct. Rule XIII(b)

PJMort

4/16/18 2:44pm

This is incorrect. The pivot foot can come up with the other foot still on the

BYUCLA

4/16/18 3:01pm

You're right. I think my error was in using the word simultaneously. Once your pivot foot comes up and your non-pivot

4/16/18 3:05pm

I’ve wondered that hat too.

BYUCLA

4/16/18 3:12pm

Yeah, the up and under is the move I was missing originally. It's okay as long as you do it in one continuous motion.

4/16/18 3:14pm

Is it in the rulebook that it has to be in one continuous motion?

BYUCLA

4/16/18 5:11pm

Dirk Nowitzke made a living off that

PJMort

4/16/18 3:49pm

To many refs call the step through traveling just because it looked different.

PJMort

4/16/18 4:03pm

And one last question.

BYUCLA

4/16/18 5:26pm

Yes, this is just a variation on the euro-step. BUT, you'll probably get called

PJMort

4/16/18 5:31pm

Interestingly, the college rule book does NOT cover all the rules.

j20

4/17/18 8:05am

Here is NBA rule XIII(d). 😂

PJMort

4/16/18 2:32pm

I'm pretty sure you're missing the option of a second dribble if you're moving

RyneK

4/16/18 2:44pm

Horizontal movement? ✔️ Away from Basket? ✔️ Legal play? ✔️

RyneK

4/16/18 2:46pm

Well he definitely touched the ball with both hands while dribbling so double

Ash

4/16/18 7:34pm

That's what I'm trying to tell you. It's legal if you're moving away from your

RyneK

4/16/18 9:05pm

Really? B-ball rules are a racket.

Ash

4/17/18 6:20am

^I’ve gone the rounds with this guy before, and realized he knows his stuff.

AndyDwyer

4/16/18 2:52pm

Unless I’m wrong, is the majority missing the jab step?

Hedonic Threadmill

4/16/18 2:58pm

"having established a pivot foot"

rggee

4/16/18 3:00pm

I’m missing your point

Hedonic Threadmill

4/16/18 3:01pm

rules disagree - once you have established a pivot foot, you cannot dribble

rggee

4/16/18 3:03pm

yes you can, as long as the ball leaves the hand before your pivot leaves the

coltonbyu

4/16/18 3:08pm

oh well then you are missing the 2nd part of the question: "when you lift that

rggee

4/16/18 3:10pm

im replying to you, not the OG comment. You said once established.

coltonbyu

4/16/18 3:19pm

yes you can dribble before lifting your pivot foot

rggee

4/16/18 3:43pm

I did miss the lifted portion

Hedonic Threadmill

4/16/18 3:25pm

help me understand...

flyzag

4/16/18 4:53pm

you can

coltonbyu

4/16/18 5:03pm

Yes, as long as the ball leaves your hand BEFORE you lift your pivot foot.

PJMort

4/16/18 5:44pm

RE: POLL: Traveling: having established a pivot foot, when you lift that pivot

Jugarnot

4/16/18 4:28pm

If you're James Harden you can do anything you want at that point

icecougar

4/16/18 6:11pm

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