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May 27, 2018
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delux_247
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Just like most everything, government intervention has made the situation worse
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I am very sympathetic towards students nowadays with huge debt, but I still feel
Game Changer
5/27/18 10:10am
There isn’t enough transparency around starting salaries based on degree
ColumbusCoug
5/27/18 10:14am
Its a messed up system, but students should know what they are doing.
Cougarrr
5/27/18 10:18am
Another problem is that so few end up in a career they
johnnycarson
5/27/18 10:22am
Seriously kids... Go be a plumber or an electrician. No
johnnycarson
5/27/18 10:26am
I'm glad to hear somebody is telling this to the kids. Because the ones in this
Game Changer
5/27/18 10:26am
True. But they are just 18 with varying amounts of parental know how and help
runnincoug
5/27/18 11:06am
You're right. Most of us "should" do things, but we don't. And vice versa.
Cougarrr
5/27/18 11:10am
Exactly!! Easy to say in hindsight.
Cnation
5/27/18 12:10pm
There is a lot of information online about salaries, but people don't do their
Coach's Dad
5/27/18 10:27am
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Cretin
5/27/18 10:27am
In my field, the salary data is often skewed towards those with more experience
buffgato
5/27/18 10:32am
Society does a notoriously poor job of giving kids realistic expectations
buffgato
5/27/18 10:24am
True - but at this point the situation has been going on for long enough that
crack
5/27/18 10:26am
The savvy ones do, but I think there are a lot of naive people still out there
buffgato
5/27/18 10:35am
They're told by too many people that a university degree is critical for success
Belboz
5/27/18 10:49am
That, and you shouldn't settle for less than a career you are passionate about
buffgato
5/27/18 10:52am
Make a career out of something you love and you'll never work a day in your
kotacoug
5/27/18 11:45am
Yep. College degree now is basically just like a HS degree
kotacoug
5/27/18 11:41am
I think the disconnect is more about education versus connections
DJROSS
5/27/18 10:25am
I don’t feel bad for them. I grew up with most of my peers not being able to afford college
Zach Morris
5/27/18 10:26am
I did the same thing. I worked full-time before going to college, and part-time
Game Changer
5/27/18 10:36am
Let’s be honest, college is a socially acceptable hideout for many lazy people.
Zach Morris
5/27/18 10:44am
And they all go to ASU
boorad
5/27/18 11:49am
A friend of ours is finishing up his undergrad with the
fredetteaboutit13
5/27/18 10:43am
But that’s ok, because socially we think it’s ok to be lazy and out of work so long
Zach Morris
5/27/18 10:49am
Parents need to instill in their kids a work ethic long before they go off to college. My parents
ocmyhome
5/27/18 11:14am
School is also much much much more expensive than years ago
Deleted
5/27/18 11:36am
Very fair point and should be considered. But I think if you can’t afford something in this case
Zach Morris
5/27/18 11:41am
My biggest complaint is the fact that I can get a
Cnation
5/27/18 10:30am
You can’t get a 2% car loan and as for the student loan difference. One is a depreciating asset while the
Zach Morris
5/27/18 10:36am
Do you realize how ridiculously cheap 7% interest is on unsecured borrowing?
Jesse Pinkman
5/27/18 11:08am
Also going rate on car loans right now is just above 4% and that’s for a 5-7
cougarfann888
5/27/18 11:38am
I get that. That wasn’t my point. We live in a society where a degree is highly
Cnation
5/27/18 12:02pm
There is an over supply of money in the system. Student loans are too easy to
delux_247
5/27/18 10:30am
Yep. And with government repayment plans there is less incentive for students to be frugal in their college choices
Odysseus
5/27/18 10:38am
This this this
jkccoug
5/27/18 10:44am
The for-profit diploma mills prove your point. I knew a girl who took out $40k
SD-Y-FAN
5/27/18 11:47am
The cost of education has been rising many times faster than inflation
spinner
5/27/18 10:35am
Just like most everything, government intervention has made the situation worse
delux_247
5/27/18 10:39am
I wonder how close the rise in maximum debt levels backed by the government
crack
5/27/18 10:41am
Not sure about total debt backed, but Pell Grants
spinner
5/27/18 10:44am
Idk about that, but each solution causes some different problems to deal with
Odysseus
5/27/18 10:41am
Remember "cash for clunkers"? The net effect of that program was more
delux_247
5/27/18 10:48am
Some programs are good, some are bad. All will have some negative externalities tied to them.
Odysseus
5/27/18 10:52am
The government has always been deeply involved in education
spinner
5/27/18 10:55am
Not always, and you misconstrued my statement.
delux_247
5/27/18 11:38am
Here's my issue: the government's willingness to loan money is the reason prices
jkccoug
5/27/18 10:43am
You know what bugged me was when my school raised tuition by 5k every year I was there. Not cool. But they can do that
Slim
5/27/18 10:44am
if you knew your customers would pay whatever it cost you'd do it too
Mayor of Cougartown
5/27/18 10:54am
I work at a college my kids are interested in attending..
FulhamUte
5/27/18 10:45am
The bad thing is skyrocketing tuition. It sucks and hoses everybody but the schools.
shimmy
5/27/18 10:49am
And most kids never finish and the schools know that. Schools accept
CSoul
5/27/18 11:16am
Does anyone have any insight into how this is effecting the
pac12stickerhater
5/27/18 8:45pm
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