Who can really, truly, understand the LDS situation and leadership without

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Jul 11, 2018
7:46:27am

runnincoug All-American

Who can really, truly, understand the LDS situation and leadership without

being LDS? Ed Lamb is the only one that remotely comes to mind. If you're not a card-carrying LDS member, you just won't get why you have to vet everything with the Board of Trustees in SLC and why things are the way they are.

Shoot, many on this board who are LDS still don't really understand that.

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I'd like to see BYU drop the requirement that the HC be LDS. I get that they need someone that can understand LDS but

TEXAS mutual friends

7/11/18 7:34am

Who can really, truly, understand the LDS situation and leadership without

runnincoug

7/11/18 7:46am

Grimes would be the type of individual that the BOT

kotacoug

7/11/18 8:00am

The guy has not even called one game as an OC (anywhere) and you are saying

UNHuskerCoug

7/11/18 8:59am

You know what's priceless....

kotacoug

7/11/18 9:40am

We will drop the Honor Code before this happens.

UNHuskerCoug

7/11/18 9:00am

Send in the missionaries

pappabear246

7/11/18 3:04pm

Isn't Ed LDS? Doesn't matter but I thought he was.

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 8:02am

No, but probably comes as close as any to understanding things from an LDS

basman

7/11/18 8:06am

I made some earlier comments on this subject that seem to have taken

stevebyu8

7/11/18 8:37am

Is it really that hard to understand? Are non-LDS coaches to dumb to figure it

7/11/18 8:04am

Need commitment not just understanding.How many coaches understand NCAA rules bu

Gorum the Old

7/11/18 8:24am

Who says he needs to? Kalani being LDS isn't keeping LDS kids out of trouble. Holmoe (or whomever replaces him) can

TEXAS

7/11/18 8:08am

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East1999

7/11/18 8:46am

I don't think it would be so hard for a non-lds coach to understand. Wanting to

dreamlvr

7/11/18 10:06am

how much value does "understanding" it bring? i think that is the question

smokymountainrain

7/11/18 4:10pm

Agree. Lots of reasons why most often you are going to want an active LDS HC but

rocker

7/11/18 7:57am

My first reaction is to agree however I think there's another aspect to this that I like in having an LDS coach. I'm not

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 7:59am

It creates an incestuous coaching pole instead of a tree. Even the BoM agrees

OneUpper

7/11/18 8:16am

I'm not sure it's that small of a root system.

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 8:24am

What non-LDS coach does the poster want to hire?

Benfica1

7/11/18 11:01am

And what, have a special assistant to advise on church-related issues?

panguitch

7/11/18 8:01am

Sure. Or Holmoe. Or maybe some players were AP's

TEXAS

7/11/18 8:09am

I'd rather have the HC be limited to academic issues and let bishops and SPs be

unctoothman

7/11/18 8:06am

In a perfect world maybe. In today's media and social media environment...

panguitch

7/11/18 8:13am

The bigger issue is changing the honor code to an honor code and not an enforcement code

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 8:13am

Good idea, remove consequences. That always works.

stoils

7/11/18 9:31am

I hope you’re joking

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 10:16am

I don't know what your rebuttal means, well, it's not really a rebuttal I guess

stoils

7/11/18 12:11pm

The HC should never be more strict than a temple recommmend

Mabuhay Coug

7/11/18 10:17am

The fact it is easier to go to the temple than it is to the testing center is

7/11/18 3:29pm

I submit that Nick Saban could be at the helm and trhe team would still

PhilPete

7/11/18 8:38am

We are limited talent-wise, but there are too many examples of coaches coming in

Odysseus

7/11/18 8:48am

Dare to dream! Good for you!

PhilPete

7/11/18 8:55am

RE: Dare to dream! Good for you!

Odysseus

7/11/18 8:57am

I dig it!

PhilPete

7/11/18 10:24am

Navy Seals dont get kicked out of school for giving in to the willing jersey

OneUpper

7/11/18 10:35am

Saban would not lose to UMass, E Carolina and USU

Cougstreak

7/11/18 12:57pm

It'll never happen. If anything, the Crowton situation made the board demand

Monomachos

7/11/18 8:42am

With the HC not understanding importance of HC, it could blow up in their faces

Dr T-bone

7/11/18 9:02am

Completley agree. They can keep the standards or there gone, no reason

stealth

7/11/18 9:05am

BYU would get hammered in the media if a coach got a DUI

stoils

7/11/18 9:28am

Perhaps you might want to check into what head coaches are responsible for @ BYU

Cougarpride

7/11/18 9:51am

I don't think it's necessary for the head football coach to deal with

dreamlvr

7/11/18 11:54am

Not sure I can fully articulate why, but I disagree.

Scooter

7/11/18 9:55am

On the other hand, we are sometimes too insular, and having non-lds

dreamlvr

7/11/18 12:08pm

Yes, assistant coaches who are visible and good ambassadors

Scooter

7/11/18 4:02pm

I assume holding kids to the honor code has very little to do with the requirement to be LDS. The requirement is not to

Rhino84

7/11/18 10:01am

This is a great point, the bottom line in my mind is the school is an extension

Pretorian

7/11/18 11:27am

So, you don't think there are any good LDS coaches all of a sudden? Hmmmm.

Benfica1

7/11/18 11:03am

There are some, but eliminating 95% of coaches is not a good competitive ground

stealth

7/11/18 11:04am

Name the good LDS coaches that wouldn't be stepping into a new role if BYU hired

OneUpper

7/11/18 11:06am

Name the non-LDS HCs that you want at BYU (realistically, no Sabans).

Benfica1

7/11/18 11:56am

I already did. The burden of proof is on you to produce the list of good LDS

OneUpper

7/11/18 11:59am

What you’re essentially saying is that there aren’t any high-character, non-lds

dreamlvr

7/11/18 1:19pm

Nope. Lots of good people everywhere. Just name a couple that might come.

Benfica1

7/11/18 5:42pm

Yep, whether they’d want to come and deal with all the extra hoop to jump

dreamlvr

7/11/18 9:08pm

The pool of successful proven active LDS Head coaches is extremely small. Really just one guy left-Niumatalolo

TEXAS

7/11/18 2:26pm

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