It creates an incestuous coaching pole instead of a tree. Even the BoM agrees

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Jul 11, 2018
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I'd like to see BYU drop the requirement that the HC be LDS. I get that they need someone that can understand LDS but

TEXAS mutual friends

7/11/18 7:34am

Who can really, truly, understand the LDS situation and leadership without

runnincoug

7/11/18 7:46am

Grimes would be the type of individual that the BOT

kotacoug

7/11/18 8:00am

The guy has not even called one game as an OC (anywhere) and you are saying

UNHuskerCoug

7/11/18 8:59am

You know what's priceless....

kotacoug

7/11/18 9:40am

We will drop the Honor Code before this happens.

UNHuskerCoug

7/11/18 9:00am

Send in the missionaries

pappabear246

7/11/18 3:04pm

Isn't Ed LDS? Doesn't matter but I thought he was.

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 8:02am

No, but probably comes as close as any to understanding things from an LDS

basman

7/11/18 8:06am

I made some earlier comments on this subject that seem to have taken

stevebyu8

7/11/18 8:37am

Is it really that hard to understand? Are non-LDS coaches to dumb to figure it

IceCreamButt

7/11/18 8:04am

Need commitment not just understanding.How many coaches understand NCAA rules bu

Gorum the Old

7/11/18 8:24am

Who says he needs to? Kalani being LDS isn't keeping LDS kids out of trouble. Holmoe (or whomever replaces him) can

TEXAS

7/11/18 8:08am

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East1999

7/11/18 8:46am

I don't think it would be so hard for a non-lds coach to understand. Wanting to

dreamlvr

7/11/18 10:06am

how much value does "understanding" it bring? i think that is the question

smokymountainrain

7/11/18 4:10pm

Agree. Lots of reasons why most often you are going to want an active LDS HC but

rocker

7/11/18 7:57am

My first reaction is to agree however I think there's another aspect to this that I like in having an LDS coach. I'm not

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 7:59am

It creates an incestuous coaching pole instead of a tree. Even the BoM agrees

OneUpper

7/11/18 8:16am

I'm not sure it's that small of a root system.

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 8:24am

What non-LDS coach does the poster want to hire?

Benfica1

7/11/18 11:01am

And what, have a special assistant to advise on church-related issues?

panguitch

7/11/18 8:01am

Sure. Or Holmoe. Or maybe some players were AP's

TEXAS

7/11/18 8:09am

I'd rather have the HC be limited to academic issues and let bishops and SPs be

unctoothman

7/11/18 8:06am

In a perfect world maybe. In today's media and social media environment...

panguitch

7/11/18 8:13am

The bigger issue is changing the honor code to an honor code and not an enforcement code

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 8:13am

Good idea, remove consequences. That always works.

stoils

7/11/18 9:31am

I hope you’re joking

SouthernBlueBlood

7/11/18 10:16am

I don't know what your rebuttal means, well, it's not really a rebuttal I guess

stoils

7/11/18 12:11pm

The HC should never be more strict than a temple recommmend

Mabuhay Coug

7/11/18 10:17am

The fact it is easier to go to the temple than it is to the testing center is

IceCreamButt

7/11/18 3:29pm

I submit that Nick Saban could be at the helm and trhe team would still

PhilPete

7/11/18 8:38am

We are limited talent-wise, but there are too many examples of coaches coming in

Odysseus

7/11/18 8:48am

Dare to dream! Good for you!

PhilPete

7/11/18 8:55am

RE: Dare to dream! Good for you!

Odysseus

7/11/18 8:57am

I dig it!

PhilPete

7/11/18 10:24am

Navy Seals dont get kicked out of school for giving in to the willing jersey

OneUpper

7/11/18 10:35am

Saban would not lose to UMass, E Carolina and USU

Cougstreak

7/11/18 12:57pm

It'll never happen. If anything, the Crowton situation made the board demand

Monomachos

7/11/18 8:42am

With the HC not understanding importance of HC, it could blow up in their faces

Dr T-bone

7/11/18 9:02am

Completley agree. They can keep the standards or there gone, no reason

stealth

7/11/18 9:05am

BYU would get hammered in the media if a coach got a DUI

stoils

7/11/18 9:28am

Perhaps you might want to check into what head coaches are responsible for @ BYU

Cougarpride

7/11/18 9:51am

I don't think it's necessary for the head football coach to deal with

dreamlvr

7/11/18 11:54am

Not sure I can fully articulate why, but I disagree.

Scooter

7/11/18 9:55am

On the other hand, we are sometimes too insular, and having non-lds

dreamlvr

7/11/18 12:08pm

Yes, assistant coaches who are visible and good ambassadors

Scooter

7/11/18 4:02pm

I assume holding kids to the honor code has very little to do with the requirement to be LDS. The requirement is not to

Rhino84

7/11/18 10:01am

This is a great point, the bottom line in my mind is the school is an extension

Pretorian

7/11/18 11:27am

So, you don't think there are any good LDS coaches all of a sudden? Hmmmm.

Benfica1

7/11/18 11:03am

There are some, but eliminating 95% of coaches is not a good competitive ground

stealth

7/11/18 11:04am

Name the good LDS coaches that wouldn't be stepping into a new role if BYU hired

OneUpper

7/11/18 11:06am

Name the non-LDS HCs that you want at BYU (realistically, no Sabans).

Benfica1

7/11/18 11:56am

I already did. The burden of proof is on you to produce the list of good LDS

OneUpper

7/11/18 11:59am

What you’re essentially saying is that there aren’t any high-character, non-lds

dreamlvr

7/11/18 1:19pm

Nope. Lots of good people everywhere. Just name a couple that might come.

Benfica1

7/11/18 5:42pm

Yep, whether they’d want to come and deal with all the extra hoop to jump

dreamlvr

7/11/18 9:08pm

The pool of successful proven active LDS Head coaches is extremely small. Really just one guy left-Niumatalolo

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