Those are not mutually exclusive. Kalani’s statement at media day sure sounded

Jul 13, 2018
6:51:20am

BYUtka All-American

Like he was throwing Tanner under the bus. That has nothing to do with Tanner being critical of his own performance. There was far more wrong with the team and offense than Tanner Mangum.

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Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

NFCougar

7/12/18 10:28pm

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Hector

7/12/18 10:34pm

I would hope so.

Cougarrr

7/12/18 10:35pm

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

franklyvulgar

7/12/18 10:38pm

IF what you're suggesting is true, doesn't it follow the major problem was Kalani?

jdub

7/12/18 10:38pm

I've been critical of Kalani, but if he changes for the better how is that bad?

Little Britches

7/12/18 10:44pm

That would be a good thing, I agree. However, if we really analyze this narrative, it claims discipline/culture

jdub

7/12/18 10:59pm

I saw him own the 4-9 all the time.

BYURider

7/13/18 5:10am

Ummm... he consistently blamed everyone else. From Linehan to TD to everyone.

thecthdox

7/13/18 7:21am

Every interview I ever saw he said it is on the

BYURider

7/13/18 7:35am

Then you did not listen to many interviews. The few times I heard that kind of

thecthdox

7/13/18 8:01am

That is the issue. He would say it after he was done tossing everyone else under

BYUtka

7/13/18 8:22am

Or he did listen but heard what he wanted to hear

unctoothman

7/13/18 10:08am

I agree. In every post game I can still hear him saying "this is on me," "this is on me. "

MaxxPower

7/13/18 8:01am

This is true. When he was done blaming everyone else, he would toss that out.

BYUtka

7/13/18 8:24am

I was watching him pout all year. Not sure what YOU were watching.

Seaward

7/13/18 8:48am

I saw a coach acting the way he should in the

BYURider

7/13/18 8:55am

Agree to disagree. His sideline presence was DREADFUL if not embarrassing.

Seaward

7/13/18 8:59am

If you blame everything and anything

BYURider

7/13/18 9:18am

You know 2016 did not look good, right?

jdub

7/13/18 9:40am

The majority of "bad" things I heard about Kalani's

BYURider

7/13/18 9:54am

I'm stating something that logically flows from what the OP said. I'm being consistent.

jdub

7/13/18 10:03am

How did they go 9-4 then if the 1st year had

BYURider

7/13/18 10:11am

Do a little more research..

TheLost

7/13/18 10:21am

RE: Do a little more research..

jdub

7/13/18 10:36am

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kimdaddy35

7/13/18 12:43pm

Ummm no......hc can choose that path .many dont

CarolinaCoug

7/13/18 11:39pm

I've said multiple times that the players were awful last year.

Seaward

7/13/18 10:12am

The players. The coaches job is to prepare, but

BYURider

7/13/18 10:26am

Clearly you missed this blame gem from the almanac

Y4LYFE

7/13/18 12:22pm

"He's changed!" [Throws Tanner under the bus a few weeks ago]

Division Bell

7/13/18 5:48am

No he didn't

BYURider

7/13/18 5:51am

Was that someone else’s fault too?

BYUtka

7/13/18 6:46am

False. Tanner himself was critical of his performance last year.

NFCougar

7/13/18 6:47am

Those are not mutually exclusive. Kalani’s statement at media day sure sounded

BYUtka

7/13/18 6:51am

Wow.

NFCougar

7/13/18 6:57am

Thanks, Sis. Sitake. Nice of you to start an account today.

Division Bell

7/13/18 8:15am

So, out of fear of throwing anyone under the bus what does he say? Everything...

icecougar

7/16/18 10:45am

He didn't throw him under the bus. I'm sure Tanner would fully agree with him

D.T. Survivor

7/13/18 8:06am

Tanner did agree with him. He owned it

icecougar

7/16/18 10:48am

How did he throw Tanner under the bus?

MacroCougar

7/13/18 9:13am

That happens. When QB play was the major roadblock to success in 2012...

icecougar

7/19/18 12:07pm

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East1999

7/13/18 8:03am

That's kind of funny. The OP says outright culture was a huge problem. And you object to my saying

jdub

7/13/18 8:15am

It's Kalani's fault... even if it isn't.

TheLost

7/13/18 8:18am

As I said, if the OP is correct (that culture/lack of discipline were a major concern) that IS on the head coach

jdub

7/13/18 9:11am

Viewpoint...

TheLost

7/13/18 9:54am

That's pretty crazy--you just claimed the head coach has no responsibility for morale, of discipline, for team culture

jdub

7/13/18 10:05am

I don't know if I buy into the "It's Kalani's fault." I'm wondering if Kalani

FanofBYU

7/13/18 2:50pm

He didn't treat Ty poorly. That offense was bad.

hammergm

7/13/18 4:50pm

So was the freakig defense and the S&C!! AND SPECIAL TEAMS!!

CarolinaCoug

7/13/18 11:45pm

The D really needs to improve this year. That should be something that he owns

LaserCoug

7/14/18 2:27pm

& we've seen Kalani implement things to change the course/direction of the team

icecougar

7/19/18 11:40am

you joined CB today just to post that?

PenrynCoug

7/12/18 10:43pm

I'm skipping the Kool-Aid this summer. Thanks though.

Shore10

7/12/18 10:47pm

Kool Aid?

NFCougar

7/12/18 10:54pm

Do you think @ least 6-6 with a bowl win finishing 7-6 is realistic?

wickedgame71

7/12/18 10:56pm

Ya, I think it’s a 6 win team (maybe 7).

NFCougar

7/13/18 7:02am

I’ve been cynical about the team and program but I can get on

Traveshamockery

7/13/18 7:34am

This is exactly why the Sitake hire has been a disaster.

ataylor

7/13/18 7:50am

I agree. But I would add that regardless of who we hire,

Traveshamockery

7/13/18 8:14am

I think if BYU were to make smart coaching and AD hires, along with smarter

ataylor

7/13/18 8:22am

It may have been a typo but I don’t think the new

Traveshamockery

7/13/18 8:56am

I want to believe.......

Ode to Hoy

7/12/18 10:57pm

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Pimpin4Paradise

7/12/18 11:26pm

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Dread Pirate Westley

7/12/18 11:35pm

Of all those things you predict only 1 has any support

Y4LYFE

7/13/18 1:11am

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Gerald-DeGroot

7/13/18 1:25am

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

Imacoug

7/13/18 4:39am

Let me guess, guys are "flying around" on the field?

Mister P

7/13/18 5:09am

😂

Fervent Cougar

7/13/18 7:05am

Nope. They're dancing around the field. That's how much more fun they're

Ash

7/13/18 8:24am

I wonder when those alleged changes will trickle down to recruiting, 7 on 7 and other activities

TEXAS

7/13/18 6:08am

RE: I wonder when those alleged changes will trickle down to recruiting, 7 on 7

NFCougar

7/13/18 6:45am

It's not just one dude. And they aren't just random parents. You, on the other hand, are some random fan

TEXAS

7/13/18 7:24am

What are the players/recruits saying on Twitter

NFCougar

7/13/18 7:48am

I'm not sure. I don't creepily follow teenagers on the internet

TEXAS

7/13/18 8:19am

Ohh gotcha. But you’ll assume full credibility

NFCougar

7/13/18 9:22am

Nope. The sources aren’t all anonymous to me.

TEXAS

7/13/18 12:34pm

and trash in the locker room 😉

D.T. Survivor

7/13/18 8:07am

RE: Culture of the Football Team is Night/Day Difference From Last Year

acougfan

7/13/18 6:43am

Everyone cites the O and only the O for improved discipline but the D

Coogar2

7/13/18 7:02am

So we are a 5 win team? Guess that's an improvement.. ;).

Bert609

7/13/18 7:06am

Tom and Kalani need to bring in this guy to fire the team and organization up:

TheLoneCougar

7/13/18 7:23am

Or this guy

Cougarrr

7/13/18 8:40am

Team gave up last year at East Carolina. A complete give up job. Never thought

MajorZeus

7/13/18 7:27am

I’m not making excuses but ALOT of teams give up against

Gerald-DeGroot

7/13/18 12:13pm

You must have missed 54-10.

Real Men Wear Blue

7/13/18 12:42pm

most painful thing I've ever witnessed

icecougar

7/16/18 10:24am

That's the first time you've seen a BYU team give up?? Are you a new fan or...

icecougar

7/16/18 10:22am

I saw that painful display and agree. Since I sat a few rows up at the East

MajorZeus

7/16/18 1:59pm

Not an 8 win team? So is it a 7 win team? I think only 7 wins would be a little

Yunit

7/13/18 7:31am

Yeah. 6 wins should be the worst. so 2 extra wins is not likely? thats not good

Return of the Yeti

7/13/18 10:01am

So, which assistant coach or relative Kalani is this?

Adrielle

7/13/18 8:23am

Thank you. I'm tired of hearing only negativity and whining

Judge Judy

7/13/18 10:34am

What Sitake and Detmer got wrong

hamaca

7/13/18 11:52am

I don't believe today's players are any different. Discipline on a football

MormonThug

7/13/18 12:11pm

The team is further along, stronger, faster, closer than ever. Lots of grit, too

Real Men Wear Blue

7/13/18 12:41pm

Not an 8-win team? Come on now. 7-win season and a bowl win is not asking a lot

andrewg3

7/13/18 2:37pm

I’ll take “what is impact of losing to UMASS at home for 500 Alex”

cougarnw

7/13/18 3:50pm

not according to Mr Scoob

icecougar

7/13/18 8:25pm

It's amazing what losing 20 pounds does for morale

Y4LYFE

7/14/18 12:36am

Whether that is true or not I don't really care....

CoachSpeak

7/16/18 11:12am

Unfortunately the culture on Cougarboard isn't different from last year...

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