Can't help but agree with this. Also feel they were unshackled and

Jul 13, 2018
2:48:53pm

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Had more creative freedom whereas BYU was mired with multi-layered chain of command, combined with the church's religious and honor code constraints.

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Just thinking about when Utah and TCU were added to P5 conferences

BradioHead

7/13/18 1:58pm

There's a lot of ambiguity of what our chances really were in 2010. Was BYU

Windward_Coug

7/13/18 2:04pm

It isn't an AD failure, it is a President's Office and BOT failure

Nat Gas Man

7/13/18 2:05pm

Right, but will we ever get the real story? 2010 looks like it was our best

Windward_Coug

7/13/18 2:08pm

I for one don't think the real story will ever come out, because it would

Nat Gas Man

7/13/18 2:11pm

Agreed.... I'm afraid a certain character flaw had a negative trickle down effect

CLCougar

7/13/18 2:23pm

From what I understand Worthen was heavily involved in the 2010 flop

I'mBatman

7/13/18 2:58pm

Agree. The 247 Sports article highlights just how important

Everyman

7/13/18 2:30pm

Reading between the lines in that story, I dont think there is anything that the BOT or AD could have done differently

cheezedawg

7/13/18 2:57pm

There were lots of leaks about BYU's lawyers being pieces of work, requiring all sorts of crap.

mulletino

7/13/18 2:06pm

No humility

Nat Gas Man

7/13/18 2:07pm

Or maybe just an over-correction from the Mtn fiasco?

antiyewt

7/14/18 4:07pm

I think you are right. That and the unknown B12 issues at the time

Nat Gas Man

7/14/18 4:29pm

They didn't. They were never close in 2010.

molodyets

7/13/18 2:08pm

Hard to say.

mulletino

7/13/18 2:08pm

That’s a very hard stance to take considering byu was mentioned as the top target by ESPN and other

Zach Morris

7/13/18 2:59pm

Those comments came from the Big East

Everyman

7/13/18 2:21pm

^^^ This

fan_byu

7/13/18 2:35pm

Utah was willing to take no $ the first year, 50% the 2nd and 75% the third.

JasonJDelmonico

7/13/18 2:23pm

RE: Utah was willing to take no $ the first year, 50% the 2nd and 75% the third.

SCcoug

7/13/18 2:39pm

Ironically one of those lawyers is now president of BYU

Jersey hunter

7/13/18 2:47pm

Was Worthen really working on the negotiations?

Goliath

7/13/18 4:13pm

No.

NewMexiCoug

7/13/18 8:19pm

It wasn’t necessarily tv reassurances

I'mBatman

7/13/18 3:07pm

That’s the common theme adopted by the three

Everyman

7/13/18 3:12pm

Hence BYU’s failure.

Zach Morris

7/13/18 3:25pm

We were too used to being the top dog in conference, couldn't

CLCougar

7/13/18 3:36pm

Many fans could. CB was loaded with posters who knew what was on the line. And then

Zach Morris

7/13/18 4:26pm

RE this thread: fascinating how rumor evolves into folklore evolves into myth.

panguitch

7/13/18 11:19pm

If there was ever a verbal offer to BYU

BradioHead

7/13/18 2:20pm

We were just waiting for our Boaz

Goliath

7/13/18 2:31pm

Teams joining new conferences always phase in their share.

SCcoug

7/13/18 2:38pm

That’s the practice now, but I don’t think it was common

Everyman

7/14/18 7:29am

Nebraska and other new B1G schools took 6 years to phase into a full sh.

SCcoug

7/14/18 9:53am

The Big12 conference was on life support

I'mBatman

7/13/18 3:10pm

Even without taking TV $$ in the first year Utah made more money in their first

wcj99

7/13/18 4:01pm

Annual financial report indicates they received $5.2M.

Everyman

7/13/18 4:35pm

BYU was at the table...

Coug

7/13/18 3:24pm

That’s the story we here from time to time...the Big 12 was unstable so BYU didn’t make the jump...

Bonoman

7/13/18 11:55pm

Interesting of note in the article

BradioHead

7/13/18 2:36pm

Yes, there were some fortunes of timing...

Tokolosh

7/13/18 2:41pm

Can't help but agree with this. Also feel they were unshackled and

CLCougar

7/13/18 2:48pm

I mentioned that they had to convince the pac 12 to add them

BradioHead

7/13/18 2:53pm

Utah had also won a BCS game and was on the rise along with TCU...

Bonoman

7/13/18 3:09pm

And both Utah and TCU had substantially better Presidents who

CLCougar

7/13/18 3:34pm

We could let our drug/dui/women maltreatment players get away with it I suppose

Y4LYFE

7/13/18 3:06pm

How about not going into the 2011 B12 expansion like you are the big dog,

blackshirts

7/13/18 9:21pm

BYU declined the Big 12’s invite in ‘11. Big mistake.

Chet Donnelly

7/13/18 11:19pm

Not a big mistake... The program death mistake!! The legacy of TH.

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