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Aug 9, 2018
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Josef K
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ultimately the same thing that will keep BYU out of just about any conference
The school presidents are distrustful of a university run by the clergy of a religion that prefers to keep one foot out of the mainstream.
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Everyone on here talks very definitively about the fact that the PAC 12 would
here's to hoping
8/9/18 9:31pm
Liberal schools in liberal states.
idcougarfan
8/9/18 9:32pm
Baloney. Not a research University, Religious
Freeagent12
8/9/18 9:41pm
Agree.
Y-Zag
8/9/18 9:41pm
Sunday play
Brigham
8/9/18 9:42pm
That is just an excuse. It is an easy out for them.
scott715
8/10/18 12:30pm
Yes but it is a legitimate excuse... and the only one...
lilpenny
8/12/18 5:24am
IOW, liberal schools in liberal states.
Plato
8/9/18 9:43pm
Haha, exactly. He just describes liberalism & supports the post he disagrees w/
zerome4sooners
8/10/18 6:58am
Also a Private religious school.
bluegato
8/10/18 5:39am
Stanford is private
Freddie Cougar
8/10/18 12:28pm
As is USC. Both are secular.
Brigham
8/10/18 1:19pm
Did USC originally have a religious tie? Seems like I heard it did. Even if true, that was obviously a long time ago.
SingleStrapBackpack
8/10/18 6:28pm
They did.... long, long ago. It is a private university.
Benfica1
8/10/18 9:35pm
yes, all antithetical to liberal schools and liberal states.
Y4LYFE
8/12/18 10:40am
Academic freedom.
chilango
8/9/18 9:34pm
Church affiliation.
TriggerWarning
8/9/18 9:35pm
They want everyone to be tolerant of other people’s beliefs unless those other people are Mormons.
Zaphod
8/9/18 9:36pm
Amen brother.
Y-Zag
8/9/18 9:38pm
But props to their intolerance principles. They left a lot of Mormon money...
jrifkin48
8/9/18 9:42pm
Fair point
TNT
8/9/18 10:14pm
Problem is, many mormons are turning to the yewts as their team. We are being
coolblue
8/10/18 6:57am
Gave ya a thumbs down just to complete the cycle
IceBlueCoug
8/9/18 10:31pm
Thanks!
Zaphod
8/9/18 11:21pm
Bot entirely true. They are not tolerant of hate groups either.
UNHuskerCoug
8/9/18 10:38pm
Not exactly. They want others to be tolerant of their beliefs but have no tolerance for those who believe otherwise.
Refugee
8/10/18 6:07am
It’s much worse today than it was in 2011.
Refugee
8/10/18 6:29am
So you are saying that the Pac 12 schools tolerate
UNHuskerCoug
8/10/18 6:33am
I think his statement is pretty clear, and does not imply what you seem to
NewMexiCoug
8/10/18 6:42am
Didn’t say a thing about Mormonism. You wrote that in your mind. Read again.
Refugee
8/10/18 9:18am
They don't consider BYU a "research university" which is a bogus excuse.
Y-Zag
8/9/18 9:37pm
Exactly. They were willing to consider the 5 Big12 schools to fill out a
NewMexiCoug
8/10/18 6:43am
BYU is not that much of a graduate research university.
Archaeovagrant
8/10/18 12:38pm
ultimately the same thing that will keep BYU out of just about any conference
Josef K
8/9/18 9:45pm
And liberal universities have a definite anti-religion bias. It doesn't matter
Y-Zag
8/9/18 9:52pm
*all universities...trust me, I'm a professor. Academia is as liberal as it gets
pistol12
8/9/18 9:59pm
Not all universities.
garyfan
8/9/18 10:01pm
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TC_Mike
8/12/18 8:46am
My son went to a state college in conservative Idaho. Extremely liberal.
Y-Zag
8/9/18 10:01pm
North Idaho?
SingleStrapBackpack
8/10/18 12:11am
Lewis-Clark State College in Lewiston. He would call me weekly and complain
Y-Zag
8/10/18 9:13am
Interesting, never even heard of that college before
SingleStrapBackpack
8/10/18 9:29am
It is a small college. Hosts the NAIA Baseball national championship
Y-Zag
8/10/18 9:36am
Actually, geography has been a big factor for all but PAC.
Benfica1
8/10/18 11:04am
Sunday play, Sunday play, Sunday play.
Everyman
8/9/18 10:09pm
BYU was also rejected by the Pac-10 in the '90s. It's nothing new
TNT
8/9/18 10:13pm
Thank you for the links, this helps.
here's to hoping
8/10/18 9:25am
Cal and Stanford are as bigoted as they come. Those 2 block everything BYU. It's
Lance71
8/9/18 10:24pm
I’d say the big 12 is more bigoted
Josef K
8/9/18 10:30pm
They are pretty tolerant of Baylor and even TCU before they were the Big12.
Lance71
8/9/18 10:38pm
That’s why they’re bigoted. Cal and Stanford are completely different
Josef K
8/9/18 10:45pm
Baylor and TCU are cut from the same religious cloth
Everyman
8/9/18 10:50pm
TCU has religious origin... is NOT a religious institution today.
Samurai Jack
8/9/18 10:50pm
No, but it’s trustees, donors and supporters,
Everyman
8/9/18 11:09pm
Texas Christian University is an educational institution...
TCUfan77
8/12/18 10:33am
There are many types of bigotry other than bigotry against Christians. Not that
chilango
8/10/18 6:20am
What do you mean by "block everything BYU", would you mind sharing some concrete
here's to hoping
8/10/18 9:24am
Yes. You will get dirty looks if you say Texas Christian instead of TCU now.
shatter2
8/12/18 7:45am
Robert Carr Chapel
TCUfan77
8/12/18 9:51am
Ok so there is one left. Brite Divinity is not.
shatter2
8/12/18 10:02am
Why would one need two? Brite has been separate since its founding in 1914
TCUfan77
8/12/18 11:13am
Baylor is also not welcome. Connect the dots.
Samurai Jack
8/9/18 10:34pm
To be fair, Baylor is barely welcome in their own conference.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/10/18 4:41am
Yes indeed... but for entirely different reasons....
Samurai Jack
8/10/18 4:46am
Did they say Baylor was not welcome at the time they were trying to expand?
here's to hoping
8/10/18 9:22am
Reports such as this Tramel article said so... (link)
Samurai Jack
8/10/18 5:23pm
interesting, thanks
here's to hoping
8/10/18 7:46pm
Everyone? kind of a stretch don't you think?
Heinz57
8/10/18 12:04am
I think you're missing the point of my question. I'm not trying to imply
here's to hoping
8/10/18 9:17am
So state it then.
Heinz57
8/11/18 1:01pm
Appreciate all of the opinions everyone, but can anyone point me to specific
here's to hoping
8/10/18 9:15am
The easiest one is the Sunday play requirement, per Everyman above:
NewMexiCoug
8/10/18 9:24am
thanks I saw that link after this post, but if we played well enough and brought
here's to hoping
8/10/18 11:07am
There are very few programs that could move the needle for a P5 conference
NewMexiCoug
8/10/18 11:13am
According to Dr. Hill (Former AD for Utah) - They were told that Sunday play was
FanofBYU
8/10/18 10:48am
The commissioner of the then PAC-10 came out and said directly
deljdc
8/10/18 12:17pm
thanks
here's to hoping
8/10/18 1:17pm
Thanks for the reminder.
Y-Zag
8/10/18 2:00pm
If you want to point to one single event
WaybackCougar
8/10/18 11:33am
yall play the victim card well...keep it up it looks well on you!
TC_Mike
8/12/18 8:50am
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